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mapuc 07-17-08 05:56 PM

Different tactics
 
Ohoy all you expert

What should the german uboat have done instead?

I'm not an expert on subwarfare from WWII, so how should they have done it?

Any suggestion?

Markus

rob89 07-17-08 06:07 PM

What exactly do you mean by your questions?
How should they have won the war?
Or are you asking about specific U-Boat tactics?

mapuc 07-17-08 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob89
What exactly do you mean by your questions?
How should they have won the war?
Or are you asking about specific U-Boat tactics?

About specific U-Boat tactics. How should they have done it instead, to win the war.

I know it's tricky question

But if you was "drawing" the tactics how would you have done it?

Markus

Mush Martin 07-17-08 06:42 PM

Build three less capital ships before 1939 and make submarines
out of them.
create a naval air arm.
Rotate their codes.

that would be about all necessary to change everything

Madox58 07-17-08 06:51 PM

Don't fight on 3 fronts!!

mapuc 07-17-08 06:53 PM

create a naval air arm.
That have made me wonder, WHY didn't they create such an airsupport?

Rotate their codes.
Same here, even the japanese did the same mistake

Markus

Mush Martin 07-17-08 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer
Don't fight on 3 fronts!!

Fight in Cairo not Moscow

Madox58 07-17-08 07:19 PM

Africa was nearly worthless.
Dominate Europe.
Take out Great Britian.
You would own all else by default after that.

Mush Martin 07-17-08 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer
Africa was nearly worthless.
Dominate Europe.
Take out Great Britian.
You would own all else by default after that.

Own the suez and you have britains jugular in your hands
in 1940 if even a minor ten percent of the forces
dedicated to russia had been given to
afrika corp, italy would have eventually dominated
the med due to a lack of safe ports.

and all british supply lines from IO would come the long
way round. into the teeth of my extra uboats.

kenijaru 07-17-08 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer
Africa was nearly worthless.
Dominate Europe.
Take out Great Britian.
You would own all else by default after that.

Germany wasn't ready for the atrition warfare that started when they tried to put england under the blitz. Also, they needed oil for their armies.
Germany should have remained allied to Russia, but that was out of question... an aliance with the untermensch? (is that how you spell it?)
The biggest tactical (and strategial) mistake that Germany commited was letting a certain individual become their Führer.

baggygreen 07-17-08 07:29 PM

the others have posted it - less capital ships (tough though, they were the mark of a strong navy), taking cairo (not strictly naval obviously) and continuing the BoB (again not strictly naval).

by taking Cairo, you hold the canal, make ships go the long way round the Cape, by continuing the BoB you subdue Britain, almost completely, and THEN you attack russia with Africa and Britain contained.

Madox58 07-17-08 07:33 PM

If you dominate Europe?
The Suez is yours.
You ignore Spains pleas and take them down.
You own the Straights now.
The Suez is worthless.
Now whack GB.

Mush Martin 07-17-08 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer
If you dominate Europe?
The Suez is yours.
You ignore Spains pleas and take them down.
You own the Straights now.
The Suez is worthless.
Now whack GB.

historically fighting on the
peninsula isnt as easy as it
looks Napolean burned up a
few armies that way.

no britain was weak and the stakes
came with oil. egypt is a better bet.

Now to our host mapuc thank you !!
the historical what if can be the greatest
of intellectual reveries somedays. :up:

M

kenijaru 07-17-08 07:41 PM

Germany helped Franco, so it makes perfect sense for Germany to DEMAND that Spain helps them either on Africa or against the UK.

Madox58 07-17-08 07:42 PM

I look at it this way.
If I own one side of the Suez?
Your screwed.
As most of the oil was going through the Straights?
I can take Spain out and own those Straights.
Then I negotiate with Egypt cause they are in a bad way.
Gotta sell your oil?
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse!!


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