I'm not gettin' any (medals in RFB and TM, that is;) )
 

(Admins feel free to move this to the general SH4 forum, but I think it belongs here since it touches mods)
I searched the forum and found out others had the same problem.
Both with RFB and Trigger Maru, installed alternately, not simultanously of course, I do not seem to get any awards, even if I meet the criteria.
I've been away from SH4 a long time and this is my first time with the Uboat addon, which I bought for the improvements of 1.5, not for the U-Boats.
One possible cause for this which occured to me:
When I finish a patrol, the "rating" field seems empty. I don't remember wether this is standard or not, but shouldnt there be "poor" "good" or whatever in that field?
Maybe someone in both RFB and TM accidentally used a pre 1.5 version of a file and thereby "killed" all awards?

Btw, any chance of a IJN campaign instead of fantasy Uboats?

For TMO I can tell you Ducimus fixed it.
Maybe you should have a look wether you got the newest version.:up:

I know myself an Luke have noticed this. I have my suspicions, but nothing concrete.

Right now, my leading suspicion is that maybe, in some way, how much tonnage you earn is being compared to the aces list. At some point, both TM and RFB added a mod that increased tonnage to the PRE- JANAC scores as the skippers knew them in war time. Since the tonnage is obviously much higher, *IF* comparision is being made it would make one "unworthy" of medals fairly quickly. Again, I am not sure, its just a suspicion i have.

edit: I do know ive seen a silver star and a MOH at least once, but other then that, i havent seen alot of medals either.

Since I was the originator of that pre JANAC list, it could be that the old saying "it is all my fault!" might be true on this one
:D

LOL, i just now realized you were the original author of that mod. (I feel like such a goof now :88) )

Again, its just a hunch. It requires testing to prove or disprove. Its either that, OR
a.) My medal fix mod
or
b.) a 1.5 issue.

The next leading possible cause would be my medal fix, although i can't see how as all i did was change what graphic resources the various medals point to.

LOL...I was wondering how long it would take Duci to realize it was AntEater who created that mod. :rotfl:

As for the medals issue, I have to believe it's something to do with the game. I checked the RFB files, and I saw that we've not implemented "pre-JANAC" mod in RFB yet. As to what it could be, I have no idea.

Might be time to PM Elanaiba on this?

BTW, is it alright if we integrate your mod in RFB, AntEater?

I just got a DSM for a 34k patrol......12/18/41

Did 2 30.000 ton patrols in 1944 with RFB 1.5 and the latest RSRD (acronymns galore!) and got a CMOH each!
Problem is I just think the medals are messed up because the small icons for repeat awards show a bronze star and the citation reads wrong.
Also, my crew is awarded bronze stars that look like CMOHs.
:hmm:
Re my "mod" (really not much of a mod anyway), of course you can include it. I actually thought I had given permission for RFB as well.

Using 1.4, TMO, RSRDC

The award of promotions and medals seems to make no sense. I came back from a hughly succesful patrol, sunk beucoup ships and completed 4 assignments. Got no promotions and like 5 medals. Next was a busted patrol, didn't get the assignment (couldn't find 6 aviators) and only sunk 4 ships. Got about a dozen promotions and about the same in medals. Maybe promotions are awarded for time in grade but that wouldnt account for the medals.

Puzzling.

Thanks. I'd thought we had added the mod long ago, but apparently we didn't.

As for the medals, it's a much of a mystery to me as it is to anyone else, especially since the award requirements are all hard-coded.

i spent 5 hours yesterday messing with medals in default 1.5 ,most of it loading unloading editing as usual. they changed somthing big time from the update i did to 1.4,

best i can get it to do is

correct citation ie bronze star awarded and bronze star shown in medal box. however small icon in crew management is cmoh or silverstar ect for medals, but name is correct, then when you award it to a crewman icon is correct aswell as name in crewmans abilaties awards ect.

if i change the placement of the icons on the CrewSystemsManagement.dds in photoshop ,it corrects the small icon prior to award, but when you award the medal it fills a completly different slot, ie award silver star the navy cross space fills up ect, makes no sense. even if i change the placement in the menu.txt it doesnt help just makes the wrong citation come up aswell and digs a bigger hole.

so best for me is correct medal displayed in box, correct citation with correct medal next to it, but wrong small icon in crew management prior to awarding & correct icon & name after awarding.

im beggining to think it might be related to somthing in the captains room, captainsroom.dat file like it was back in 1.1. i will investigate further.

also if ubi havent got rights to the correct medals, why is there a folder called medals in the menu\gui folder containing a dds called sh4medals.dds and sh4medalsbackground.dds, sh4medals.dds appears to be a carbon copy of fullmetal edges badges.dds from 1.2 ??? ideas....

said medals are also displayed in the back of the curtosey recce manual i was sent with correct names ect from ubisoft. ???? are they actually planning to get them into the game officially ????

I've got a couple of questions for those that have had problems with the medals received. Thinking that we haven't modded a change to the game's proceedure for issued medals, I'm wondering if we don't have a problem with the correct placement of medals in the right image files?

So my first question is, where does the problem exist? When you speak of the "crew awards" I'm assuming that's the Crew Management screen. But I wonder if the Captain Awards found at the base office gives proper medals and descriptions? Something I've noticed is that the 1.5 Addon changed the description of the stock medals. The medals are named correctly now (the Patrol Star is now called the Silver Star, the Sub Service Medal is the Distinguished Service Medal, and so on) however this change was not done within the Menu.txt file. I'm not at all sure where the stock 1.5 Addon has changed the names for the medals within the Crew Management screen, but it has. So my first thought is why are the name's identifing wrong medals? The Stock game lists the first medal icon as being a Purple Heart, however it displays the not authentic Sub Service Medal, the second medal is identified as a Bronze Star, when the icon shows a Wounded Medal, and so on. So firstly besides this misque on the stock game part, we modders have taken the road of thinking the image pictures need to be corrected for the labeled name. Could it be that the labeling is off but the stock pictures are correct?

AntEater, you say you received a Medal of Honor for sinking 30,000 tons? That doesn't seem right to me to give the most prestigious award available for sinking ANY amount of shipping. So it draws the conclusion that the modded change isn't right. Since no one has said they have changed a data file (other than images) it would seem the image files need to be reworked, and done not to the labled description but rather the way the stock images are displayed in the various medal image files.

I'm just talking out loud hear so correct me if I'm wrong. There are icon images of medals found at the CrewManagement.dds. There are medals found in the AwardItems_1.dds and AwardItems_2.dds (I assume these are used for the Captains Award box back at base). Then there's the badges.dds found in the Texture/TNormal and TLowRes files, I don't really know where these pictures come into play. As I compare the stock medal image placement of these files to both TMO and RFB's, they do not compare exactly. Again they seem to follow the labeled description of the game. So my point is why not make the images reflect the stock game images; figure out what and where the labeled descriptions come from, change them to match the images, and then see what you get? I've done just that for the images. The images I reworked are exactly like the stock images except they have the authentic medals in them. I haven't been able to make a change to the CrewManagement mouse over descriptions, since the Menu.txt file doesn't seem to change the labels there. So there are still some questions that need to be answered.

i already changed the stock images on :-

AwardsItems_1 to bronzeststar silverstar cmoh navycross
AwardsItems_2 to dsm purpleheart

that displays correct medals in the box and when issued, ie bronzestar for 30.000 tons, with the correct citation and image. but then you go to crew system management to issue your medals to the crew and the icons are wrong discriptions correct. but when you drop the medal onto the crew member he recieves the correct medal with the correct small icon in his abilaties area.

atm im using

5150=Medals
5151=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5152=Purple Heart
5153=Bronze Star Medal
5154=Silver Star
5155=Medal of Honor
5156=Navy Cross

in the menu but ive not yet been awarded all the medals while testing so im not at all sure the order is correct. im toying with the idea that the game is using

5151=Bronze Star Medal
5152=Silver Star
5153=Distinguished Service Medal
5154=Purple Heart
5155=Navy Cross
5156=Meda Of Honor

if thats the case ill have to alter my Awardsitems_1.dds and awardsitems_2.dds again to match. but that still doesnt explain the CrewSystemsManagement.dds order being wrong on the left before being issued and correct after being issued.

i suspect that the badges.dds displays the picture of medals when you open the medal box on the captains desk and the awardsitems_1 and awardsitems_2 are the medals inside the box once you click each medal on the lid, that would explain the AwardsBackground.dds being inside the data folder alongside them.

Hate to disappoint you, but you're going in the totally wrong direction of the thread's intent. ;) It's not that the medal names and graphics are incorrect (they've been fixed by numerous mods), but rather that the game is not awarding medals at all after patrols that should result in a medal being awarded. That is the issue.

i havent seen one medal graphics mod in 1.5 that works properly yet, sorry,

all i can really refer you to is captainscurveys reply 3 posts above, which i think is heading down the right road. & anteaters comment 7 above regarding running rfb with rsrd, & getting medal graphic problems in crew system management after winning a cmoh, for a very low tonnage.

also does anyone know what medals.cfg does in data\cfg\ it wasnt there in 1.3 ???? but appeared in 1.4 and seems to still be there in 1.5 ???