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RICH12ACE 06-14-08 03:59 PM

no captains cabin yet for sh4?
 
hi all with all these great mods to download for sh4 nobody has made a good captains cabin yet :nope: can some one make one?:hmm:

gimpy117 06-14-08 04:27 PM

harder than it looks...

Captain America 06-14-08 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH12ACE
hi all with all these great mods to download for sh4 nobody has made a good captains cabin yet :nope: can some one make one?:hmm:

In the process of preparing such a task...trying to get all of my ducks in a row before I publicly take on/promise such a project. I'm going to the USS Ling tomorrow morning to take some high res photos of the officer's quarters which is what I would like to model. When I have more info and my practice tests work out I'll start a thread because I am certain I will need opinions and help.

AVGWarhawk 06-14-08 05:52 PM

More power to you Capt America if you can get it done:up:

LukeFF 06-14-08 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH12ACE
hi all with all these great mods to download for sh4 nobody has made a good captains cabin yet :nope: can some one make one?:hmm:

And what exactly would it to gameplay that isn't already there? The only reason it's modeled in U-boats is because it's adjacent to the sonar and radio/radar rooms. It's one of those things that 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 % of people will look at once, say, "that's nice" and then never look at it again.

Also, do look at a layout plan of a typical fleet submarine. There are a lot of other compartments NOT modeled in SH4 that would need to be modeled in order for a captain's cabin to fit in properly.

Arclight 06-14-08 06:34 PM

:huh: What kinda attitude is that? I for one would love my own cabin, even if only so I could retire there before going to the map and up the TC.

"If you need me, I'll be in my cabin"
"Aye, capt'n"
...
"Aircraft spotted, sir!"
"Crash dive, call the captain!"

Maybe it wouldn't add much to gameplay, but it would definetly add to immersion. They way it's now, you're either in the control room, conning tower or on the bridge, 24/7. The crew can rest somewhere, so why not the skipper?

I like it. :up:

Hartmann 06-14-08 07:18 PM

it would add things to the gameplay if the devs use the same system of SH1.
In sh1 there are a calendar with the moon phases, a log, and the ships book identification.also you can put a safe with the orders for some missions, like deploy agents and other things.information about weapons, manuals...

But a pure eye candy cabin i donīt think that could be needed because it donīt add nothing to the gameplay.

in the case of sh3 it was there because is the same compartment of the radio and sonar.

gimpy117 06-14-08 08:59 PM

make it what you go to while your in port...

DS 06-14-08 09:31 PM

Slight OT as the following is probably much more than we can hope for in a mod, but it is a plug for having a Captain's cabin in SH5+.

A functioning Captain's cabin (as stated earlier, with calendar, free writting log book, and other features) would be great. I also thought the crew management function should be administered there in a less "graphical" way (ie: make it look something more like what the Captain would have used for knowing who's assigned to what).

I've also alway thought that time compression above X amount (say, 32x) should only be available when in the Captain's cabin, to simulate sleeping/working in your cabin during the down times of the voyage. The most common usage of time compression (for me anyway) in the map mode when travelling long distances sort of takes away from immersion.

Lastly, as a new feature, I would love some day to be able to "write" standing orders for my watch crew (probably using an "if/then" drop down selection system on a "notebook" whereby you can tell your crew exactly what to do in various forseeable circumstances such as,

IF hostile warship spotted, THEN time compression to 1x and sound general quarters.

IF sound contact detected while submerged, THEN slow to 1/3 speed and sound general quaters.

IF aircraft spotted, THEN time compression to 1x and crash dive.

IF enemy merchant spotted, THEN increase to flank and set course for intercept.
and so on.

I think this would be a great feature in future generations of SH.

gimpy117 06-14-08 10:22 PM

I agree that would be nice...
but all that would need serious AI work

I would personally like a crew you can talk to...they tell you things like in oblivion
maybe the chief could give you damage reports vocally, suggustions etc....

sh5 better have the whole boat modeled too

LukeFF 06-14-08 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclight
:huh: What kinda attitude is that?

Quote:

Maybe it wouldn't add much to gameplay
My point exactly. Last time I checked, this forum was for the free exchange of ideas, which includes people's opinions of what they think is a good idea and what's not. Just because I disagree with an idea for a mod doesn't mean I have a bad attitude. :roll:

Arclight 06-15-08 01:14 AM

Ow come on, don't take it like that. :cry:

And the sentence was "Maybe it wouldn't add much to gameplay, but it would definetly add to immersion.", which is just my opinion. I agree a cabin for just eye-candy might as well be left out, but the ideas for a lunar calendar and such are pretty good imho. Just felt a bit like you shot it down before it had a chance to even take off. Your opinion just came across a bit harsh, that's all. ;)

Saying "I don't think that would add much to gameplay" ( :hmm: ) is different from "And what exactly would it to gameplay that isn't already there?" ( :arrgh!: ), or is it just me?

msalama 06-15-08 02:55 AM

Chill, gentlemen! We can't all agree on everything, but is that the end of the world? Hardly ;)

But FWIW, I'd love to see the captain's quarters added to SHIV too if possible. Adds to the immersion IMHO - used to use it constantly in SH3 myself, because even a Kaleun needs a beauty nap every now and then ;)

AVGWarhawk 06-15-08 06:08 AM

I want a captains quarters. Then I can mod in pictures of my wife and kids. :D

Arclight 06-15-08 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by msalama
used to use it constantly in SH3 myself, because even a Kaleun needs a beauty nap every now and then ;)

Indeed, wouldn't want to fall to sleep on station, now would would we? I also used it after sending a status report and waiting for the usual "keep up the good work" reply. You could keep an eye on the radioman from your bed, was pretty cool to see him look away from his station and kinda turn to you to report "message received". :cool:


Luke, I'm sorry if I offended you, I truly ment it lighthearted. I apolegize for it coming across the way it did, English isn't my native language so I probably could have worded it better.

Should have said that in the first place, huh? :doh: :oops:


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