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U-84 04-03-08 09:59 PM

New York harbor
 
hello, I have been playing Silent Hunter III recently, and from a short amount of time i started as a really nooby U-boat commander to a decent beginner..anyways, long story short, im in may 1941 in career mode, and was wondering if i go into New York harbor will there be any ships to sink, and is it worth sneaking into, cause i tried once to sneak in portsmouth, only to sneak past 3 destroyers, and 2 trawlers, and finding only 1 merchant in the harbor...:damn: which sucked, lol, then began a long trech out of there, sinking 1 destroyer...anyways, just wanted to know if it were worth sneaking into New York harbor and if there will be any ships there, as it seems sometimes there are alot of ships in a harbor and sometimes there are none, any advice would be great, thanks. also any other places to sink many ships on the map would be appreciated thanks.

Phaedrus 04-03-08 10:14 PM

I highly recommend NYC.

It is both lightly defended, and stocked with tonnage.

If you go, expect to break the 50 000 mark easily.

I finished my NYC / East Coast with 108 000 after expending all of my deck gun, and all torpedoes.

Expect to find a Ceramic type ocean liner (14000 tons if memory serves), several Modern tankers, several liberty ships, and an assortment of tramps and medium cargos.

You will need to cross a subnet at the start of the harbour channel guarded by two bunkers.
At night with some poor weather, you can cross it easily with decks awash or a depth of about 8 meters.
I've crossed it in daylight / glass seas by lowering both periscopes into their housings, a depth set at 10 meters, and just scraped across the very top with no damage to any compartments (meaning, hull structural damage, but not serious, maybe 1-5 %).
I've also slipped through in daylight by using the external view underwater, and taking the boat fully submerged between two subnet post-dealy's, suffering no damage. Its kind of cheating though if you can slow down and use the external camera, but whatever floats your boat.

The harbour itself is patrolled by two torpedo boats and a docked destroyer.
I recommend expending torpedoes on the way in, heading up the NE channel past the harbour to surface and restock torpedoes from the external stores, and then shooting more targets on the way out.

If you are carefull you can spend your torpedoes wisely. There is no need to worry about escorts so don't be afraid to let vessels hit with single torpedoes on the first run flood and sink on their own while you go to reload. If they don't appear to by listing significantly / sunk on the exit run, put your aft tubes into them.

Enjoy.

U-84 04-03-08 10:23 PM

thanks man appreciate it..will definately take your advice.

Tessa 04-04-08 03:24 AM

Gibraltor's a great place if you can make it into the actual harbor. Usually 5-10 merchants, DD's and at any given time some battleships, carriers, light/heavy cruiser's and other juicy warships.

Canovaro 04-04-08 05:11 AM

if you have gwx 2.0 installed, use the Belchen supply ship off the coast of Greenland to make trip to NYC before Dec 1941. The US are still neutral and you may find British ships laying in the harbour.

Sailor Steve 04-04-08 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaedrus
I highly recommend NYC.

It is both lightly defended, and stocked with tonnage.

If you go, expect to break the 50 000 mark easily.

I finished my NYC / East Coast with 108 000 after expending all of my deck gun, and all torpedoes.

Spoken like a true gamer. In real life there was only one successful harbor raid; Prien's attack at Scapa Flow, and it was carefully planned by admiral Doenitz himself, using aerial photographs and much spy information.

New York harbor should be a deathtrap, period. So should Portsmouth, or any other naval base.

Phaedrus 04-04-08 03:02 PM

"Spoken like a true gamer"

Uh, yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the Silent Hunter III forum.

He wanted game information, and he got it.

I think we're all acutely aware of the differences between the reality of the Second World War and a game released by Ubisoft.

I don't refuse to shower and shave, urinate in a can, smear myself with grease and crank the heat to 35C when I play - do you?

And as long as we're on the subject, when Drumroll started 4 ships were sunk within sight of Long Island, and not one of the 13 idling destroyers that were in NY harbour at the time left the pier.
As far as harbour raids are concerned, U-230 managed to infiltrate Chesapeake Bay as far as half way to Baltimore before mining the area outside of Norfolk.

Enough with the "Spoken like a true gamer" holier-than-thou routine.
Anyone and everyone can be a bully in cyberspace - some of us just don't feel the need, thats all.
He asked for help, and he got it.


U-84: Let us know how you make out!

CptGrayWolf 04-04-08 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaedrus
I don't refuse to shower and shave, urinate in a can, smear myself with grease and crank the heat to 35C when I play - do you?

I sometimes smear myself with grease, but this is not the time or place to discuss it.

-SWCowboy. 04-04-08 09:11 PM

I don't want to imagine any of you smeared with grease, or anything else for that matter!! :nope:

CptGrayWolf 04-04-08 09:14 PM

:lol:

U-84 04-04-08 09:25 PM

lmao...anyways...before i start sinking ships in NYC i have been trying to download GXW2.0 and it says that i need 1.4b patch..i download that, then it tells me i have a error different mission engine...any advise?..do i need to uninstall and reintall it, cause it says to download the mod i need a clean copy of SHIII, which is a clean copy because i just bought it about 2 weeks ago.

Phaedrus 04-05-08 02:24 AM

Oh. My response is assuming you have GWX installed. You might not find much with stock SH III.


It is just checking to make sure you have SH III 1.4 installed. Ensure that you have that patch installed before installing GWX.
If you haven't changed anything yet, and have patched your game to 1.4, then go ahead and install, and you will find no problems.

GWX changes the game significantly.

You will also have the option of enabling various Mods.

I play

GWX - Merged Campaign
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - 16km Atmosphere
WB's GWX Messages (not a stock GWX mod - this one is separate and informs of you various historical events in progress)


I also encourage you to get your practice in now, and start a fresh, and honest (no re-loading saved games after death, some realism [ manual targeting, dud torpedos, realistic fuel / compressed air, no stealth indicator, etc], and smart tactics) to get the most out of it.

GWX is the finest example of simulation / gaming to come along in a long time, and you will appreciate it when you start dying because of your foolishness.


GWX is not for the shoot-em-up gamer. It requires thought, planning, and patience.... if not, you will surely end up thinking "Who would want to play this, it's no fun at all, you just die all the time".

Its not about dying, its about living.
To quote the person who replied to my inquisitive threads before I started GWX:

"It takes a good game... and turns it into something very special."

STEED 04-05-08 08:13 AM

The boys and I nip into NY for some nice soft toilet paper, you Yanks really know how to live. :D


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