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DavyJonesFootlocker 03-27-08 03:13 PM

Unfair gun reloading times
 
I know the deck gun takes 25 secs to reload. What I don't understand is why deck guns on enemy ships rate of fire is like a Gatling-type gun.:roll:

kikn79 03-27-08 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker
I know the deck gun takes 25 secs to reload. What I don't understand is why deck guns on enemy ships rate of fire is like a Gatling-type gun.:roll:

They have a much more stable platform to be able to reload the gun. i.e. they can reload faster and fill you full of lead.

Chuck

kv29 03-27-08 07:45 PM

btw, you are NOT supposed to engage in a DG duel with other ships, subs were not meant to do such things. In real life a hit could ruin the pressure hull beyond repair at sea, making your sub a sitting duck out there.

swdw 03-28-08 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker
I know the deck gun takes 25 secs to reload. What I don't understand is why deck guns on enemy ships rate of fire is like a Gatling-type gun.:roll:

Well lessee. A sub has one gun and everything has to be carried and loaded by hand. So it averages 2.2 shells per minute with the 5" gun.

The Kaibokan could average 8 shells per minute for each gun. The Akizuki could match the US 5" guns ROF which was 15 rounds per minute.

With 3 guns the Kaibokan can achieve a ROF of 24 shells per miute- over 10 times the ROF of the sub:-?

The Akizuki had EIGHT guns, capable of delivering a total of 120 shells a minute or 54 times the ROF the sub is capable of.:o

So you can see why you feel like your facing a gattling gun. :yep:

Rockin Robbins 03-28-08 06:11 AM

And you have a sissy gun as it is
 
Just load up swdw/LukeFF/kv29's Real Deck Gun and see what happens when you don't have a gyro-stabilized deck gun. You have no clue how bad the real comparison is from submarine to Japanese warship or even armed merchant. Comparatively, you have a laser guided, gyro-stabilized machine gun. Enjoy.

Edit: It gets worse, not only is your gun laser guided and gyro stabilized, but if you're not using TM/New Real Deck Gun you're also shooting photon torpedoes that will sink a target in at most a couple dozen shots. My deck gun takes at least 100 hits to sink just about anything larger than a sampan. A normal sinking takes 20 minutes real time minimum. I don't usually attack uninjured opponents for that reason.

Edit Edit: check out this thread for a full explanation of the deck gun and its use in SH4. This is from the last version of Real Fleet Boat that I ran.

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-28-08 08:41 AM

Ok here what happened. I had hit a Large Modern Composite Freighter with my second to last torp. She slowed down a bit and thought I'd finish the job with the Deckkie. Well, I noticed the bow deck gun on the merchant and said 'Oh-Oh'. So I let my DC crew rip away. Then the enemy sharted shooting back and his rate was faster than mines and more accurate. He missed a couple of times and I had crashed dived but not before he hit my conning tower. Then things got worse. I clicked the torp compartment and a message box came up saying if I wanted to insert commandos? Has Ducimus smoked dem funny cigarettes again? Is RR really Hillary Clinton in disguise? Has Peabody won the Miss USA Teen Pageant? What going on here?:damn:

AVGWarhawk 03-28-08 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swdw
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker
I know the deck gun takes 25 secs to reload. What I don't understand is why deck guns on enemy ships rate of fire is like a Gatling-type gun.:roll:

Well lessee. A sub has one gun and everything has to be carried and loaded by hand. So it averages 2.2 shells per minute with the 5" gun.

The Kaibokan could average 8 shells per minute for each gun. The Akizuki could match the US 5" guns ROF which was 15 rounds per minute.

With 3 guns the Kaibokan can achieve a ROF of 24 shells per miute- over 10 times the ROF of the sub:-?

The Akizuki had EIGHT guns, capable of delivering a total of 120 shells a minute or 54 times the ROF the sub is capable of.:o

So you can see why you feel like your facing a gattling gun. :yep:

Somebody did their homework:know:

Rockin Robbins 03-28-08 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker
I clicked the torp compartment and a message box came up saying if I wanted to insert commandos? Has Ducimus smoked dem funny cigarettes again? Is RR really Hillary Clinton in disguise? Has Peabody won the Miss USA Teen Pageant? What going on here?:damn:

And what about Mary Lou?

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-28-08 10:12 AM

RE: RR:rotfl::rotfl:

but I'm serious about that message box.

Wilcke 03-28-08 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker
RE: RR:rotfl::rotfl:

but I'm serious about that message box.

I am confused did Mary Lou win the Miss USA Pageant or did Ducimus. :hmm: Its no fun getting old....I think this is a good time to take a break and have a nice BM. :smug:

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-28-08 04:01 PM

What's a BM?

Rockin Robbins 03-28-08 04:18 PM

What's a nice BM?

bammac3 03-29-08 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins
What's a nice BM?

If you have to ask, you are probably not old.


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