PE2 Vs Environment 4??
 

I currently have Environment 4 (1.5) installed but am curious about PE2 (Pacific Environment 2).

They both look incredibly similar but I would like some input from you lot as to which mod to go for??

Any suggestions??

Thanks.

PE2 is a bit more highend for the graphics card. Your system you have posted should run it just fine. Kriller made it a one download shot so give it a go. If it is not to our taste, deactivate via JSGME. I think you will be impressed with PE2.

PE is a great one :yep::up: It has an impressive heritage :D

As AVG mentioned give it a try, if you don't like it, etc, uninstall, no harm done.
Also, without PE, there would no mods such as the new Environment Mod ( also nicely done ).


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Excellent info chaps!!

Nice to know that Enviro 4 is a derivative of PE2!! Must be good!

Downloading now.

Thanks again!

I don't know if I'd call it a derivative. Although Kriller2 and W_clear have shared some things, in some areas they have taken distinctly different approaches to accomplishing an effect.

Also note that there are optional parts to install inside the new PE for those who have slower machines (like me) and for those that have faster machines (like me, next month when I upgrade). So, it's a have your cake and eat it, too, type thing.

I just ordered a second video card to run SLI mode because of these environmental mods. Thanks for giving me an excuse to upgrade, again. :up:

Better explanation :up:


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I have Ati X1800XT, in game without any mods or in Enviro 4. i have no sunglare effect. With PE 2 i got this damned effect.
Screen without mods:
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8...tmodvl0.th.jpg

Screen with PE 2:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7...re24zc8.th.jpg

Beware the upgrades! They are a tiring business! I've been tinkering with my new rig for a week now, and the results are still not satisfactory! :damn:

@Von_Virus: sadly, you'll never see a proper sun glare effect on an old ATi card (only through workarounds, but they could be taxing on your system and produce other side-effects). Only ATi cards from HD2xxx and up produce that effect. I chose an ATi 3650 for my new rig, and it's a pretty decent card for its cost...but I've run into inexplicable slowdowns on SH4. Something in PE_1 is causing a MASSIVE slowdown whenever I torpedo a ship. I hope this has been remedied in PE_2, which I've just downloaded.

Regarding PE vs. Environmental mod, I have to admit I'm biased. As long as Dave's spirit carries on in PE, there's no second choice for me. And kriller2 has made an amazing job with keeping the legacy of Dave alive...

I have tried the Environment Mod, mainly through the new Trigger and have to admit, it was difficult not incorporating PE because of the reasons you mentioned Beast. But I also think that if Dave were here he would want folks to try other stuff and like kriller, probably would have collaborated with W-Clear. As you know and I know, and others here, Dave was just that kind of guy. At the end of the day his influence here will be felt far beyond the reaches of modding. He was such an outstanding person, I really miss him.

All that said ^^^^, I enjoyed the testing I did with the new PE, and now that it's done look forward to adding it to my current install. Again, hats off to you kriller, thanks for all that you have done :yep::D


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Dr. Beast I noticed this to and will investigate it, but it seems to have something to do with the reflections from the fire. Try install the "more FPS" mod from the options folder and see if i helps? If not it must be something with the new particles file from the addon I used :hmm:

I'll keep that in mind, thanks. Do I need to uncheck Normal Textures from the Graphics Options for the game to switch to those textures? The mod is still being downloaded (had a network glitch and had to start all over...there are days I HATE computers!), so I don't know if they're in TNormal or TLowRes.

You're absolutely right there, but I can be sentimental like that some times! :oops:

No the more FPS mod will force the game to use a lowres / stock SH4 size of the reflection textures, so no need for swithing in the options.

Got it, cheers!