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Freiwillige 03-15-08 01:11 AM
Ships destroyed but wont sink.
 
Ive noticed an odd problem as of recently. I cant sink ships! I can blow them in half, light them on fire and get credit for them but they just do not sink. They just half sink then stop and bob on the surface. I must of broke something?

1.4 w/ GWX

Kipparikalle 03-15-08 04:26 AM
Well, if you're on the shallow waters, they indeed will just half-sink and their stern/front will stay on the surface.

I once had to patrol a grid on english channel.
On my way there I sunk large tanker, it blew in half and both parts' "heads" stood on the surface.

Couple of days ago I was returning to home, and passed the same spot where I sunk that tanker, the "heads" still were there, sticking out of the surface.

Brag 03-15-08 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipparikalle
Well, if you're on the shallow waters, they indeed will just half-sink and their stern/front will stay on the surface.

I once had to patrol a grid on english channel.
On my way there I sunk large tanker, it blew in half and both parts' "heads" stood on the surface.

Couple of days ago I was returning to home, and passed the same spot where I sunk that tanker, the "heads" still were there, sticking out of the surface.
That's usually what happens.

Jimbuna 03-15-08 09:04 AM
They're still rendered in-game until they go deeeeep http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

Kipparikalle 03-15-08 12:03 PM
Didn't the British sometimes hauled those half-sunken ships to the ports and put them as anti-submarine barricade?

Sag75 03-15-08 04:01 PM
Hi! this behaviour sometimes happens to me, too.
In fact, SH3 considers a ship sunk when she goes underwater or have a breaking exposion that destroys her.
So, my suggestion is try to hit in a critical point to have massive explosions..

i hope this help,
bye!

Sailor Steve 03-15-08 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipparikalle
Didn't the British sometimes hauled those half-sunken ships to the ports and put them as anti-submarine barricade?
Too much hassle. They usually had enough old ships sitting about to just sink them as block ships. There were no harbor raids except for Prien's at Scapa Flow, and in deeper waters real ships did sink, and were gone.

AG124 03-15-08 05:16 PM
Of Ship Halves, Salvage and Blockships...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipparikalle
Didn't the British sometimes hauled those half-sunken ships to the ports and put them as anti-submarine barricade?
The case of the US tanker Esso Nashville was an interesting one in this respect - her stern stayed afloat and was indeed towed in. However, she was actually returned to sea after a new bow half was built for the salvaged stern. I know there are probably other stories of ship-halves being salvaged for this purpose, but I can't think of them right now. I could also probably find and post a link for the Esso Nashville story, but I don't really have time and most of the people here probably already know it anyway.:yep:

In regards to blockships, from what I have read, most of those used were empty, rusted hulls and obsolete and/or rusted drifters and barges that were already condemned in 1939. A few obsolete warships were used as blockships during the Normandy invasion as well, such as the British Centurion, the French Courbet, some UK D class light cruisers (Durban and Dragon I think), and the Dutch light cruiser Sumatra (sister ship of the Java). The latter case was for protection for the landing from the weather and not against submarines though.

Kpt. Lehmann 03-22-08 08:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipparikalle
Well, if you're on the shallow waters, they indeed will just half-sink and their stern/front will stay on the surface.

I once had to patrol a grid on english channel.
On my way there I sunk large tanker, it blew in half and both parts' "heads" stood on the surface.

Couple of days ago I was returning to home, and passed the same spot where I sunk that tanker, the "heads" still were there, sticking out of the surface.
Yes. You can find "block-ships" limiting access to Scapa Flow in GWX.

Tessa 03-22-08 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AG124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipparikalle
Didn't the British sometimes hauled those half-sunken ships to the ports and put them as anti-submarine barricade?
The case of the US tanker Esso Nashville was an interesting one in this respect - her stern stayed afloat and was indeed towed in. However, she was actually returned to sea after a new bow half was built for the salvaged stern. I know there are probably other stories of ship-halves being salvaged for this purpose, but I can't think of them right now. I could also probably find and post a link for the Esso Nashville story, but I don't really have time and most of the people here probably already know it anyway.:yep:

In regards to blockships, from what I have read, most of those used were empty, rusted hulls and obsolete and/or rusted drifters and barges that were already condemned in 1939. A few obsolete warships were used as blockships during the Normandy invasion as well, such as the British Centurion, the French Courbet, some UK D class light cruisers (Durban and Dragon I think), and the Dutch light cruiser Sumatra (sister ship of the Java). The latter case was for protection for the landing from the weather and not against submarines though.
Almost all the ships either sunk or damaged on the Pearl Harbor attack were eventually brought up, righted, or otherwise raised to be repaired. Even though battleships were loosing ground to carriers in offensive capacity, the Navy still had the ships repaired/rebuilt. Only a couple still remain sunk in the harbor, of course the most famous one being the USS Arizona. Though battleships lost a lot of their punch in naval engagements, they did become very nice artillery platforms (albeit hella expensive ones) able to launch shells the size of a VW at a target 26 miles away.

Running into the ship barracades is a lot more pleasant than the usual alternatives, mines or sub nets that are harder to detect unless you're moving very slow at 1x speed.

Kipparikalle 03-22-08 12:31 PM
Alright, thanks for the reply.


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