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SUBMAN1 08-16-07 12:12 AM

M-16 is not working in Iraq...
 
So soldiers have resorted to throwing ammo at the enemy as this lady is demonstrating!! hahahahahaha! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Stupid over-dramatic people. Any dumbass knows what she is holding has yet to be fired. That is even SS109 ammo - not green tipped.

-S

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1201/dumbnewstw5.jpg

JALU3 08-16-07 12:23 AM

Wow who ever wrote this news story knows nothing of how bullets work! I wonder what insurgent group feed this one to the western news media. And I bet the anti-victory crowd will just eat it up if they didn't know any better.

The Avon Lady 08-16-07 01:13 AM

I saw this yesterday at Hot Air. Lots of added info since yesterday.

Chock 08-16-07 09:31 AM

I love this comment on the picture from that link to Hot Air:

Quote:

Of course, the photo is from Agence France Presse. The French can hardly be expected to know what happens to a bullet that has actually been fired.
:rotfl:

:D Chock

SUBMAN1 08-16-07 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chock
I love this comment on the picture from that link to Hot Air:

Quote:

Of course, the photo is from Agence France Presse. The French can hardly be expected to know what happens to a bullet that has actually been fired.
:rotfl:

:D Chock

Man - I was drinking a cup of tea when I read that. Time to get out the paper towel!

-S

TheBrauerHour 08-16-07 03:38 PM

:rotfl: :yep: I agree, that comment made my day!

Heibges 08-16-07 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock
I love this comment on the picture from that link to Hot Air:

Quote:

Of course, the photo is from Agence France Presse. The French can hardly be expected to know what happens to a bullet that has actually been fired.
:rotfl:

:D Chock

Never fired, only dropped once. :D

SUBMAN1 08-16-07 08:38 PM

You know that old lady will fake a faint if this was video. Arabs are so over-dramatic, its pathetic. Children.

-S

bookworm_020 08-16-07 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
You know that old lady will fake a faint if this was video. Arabs are so over-dramatic, its pathetic. Children.

-S

What about the soccer (football, for the people who care about it!) babies who cry and carry on, no matter if they win or loose! Grow up!

TLAM Strike 08-17-07 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
So soldiers have resorted to throwing ammo at the enemy as this lady is demonstrating!!

Well what do you expect the M-16s were built by Mattel so now our soldiers can't touch them due to the Chinese lead paint! :p :lol:

P_Funk 08-17-07 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
You know that old lady will fake a faint if this was video. Arabs are so over-dramatic, its pathetic. Children.

-S

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning

Bort 08-20-07 05:23 AM

That pic is pretty funny, but as to the title of the thread (and what I thought it was going to be about) the US does need a modern and reliable rifle to replace the M-16, preferably firing the new 6.8mm round.

The Avon Lady 08-20-07 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_Funk
Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
You know that old lady will fake a faint if this was video. Arabs are so over-dramatic, its pathetic. Children.

-S

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/literalism

Yahoshua 08-20-07 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bort
That pic is pretty funny, but as to the title of the thread (and what I thought it was going to be about) the US does need a modern and reliable rifle to replace the M-16, preferably firing the new 6.8mm round.

The M-16 will do the job, but they need to replace the gas pulse system with a gas piston system. The latter is more dirt-tolerant and more reliable than the gas pulse system now in place. And I agree with changing the calibers from 5.56 to 6.8 SPC, though I doubt the army will do that as the U.S. was the nation that pushed hardest for the 5.56 to become the NATO standard cartridge.

SUBMAN1 08-20-07 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bort
That pic is pretty funny, but as to the title of the thread (and what I thought it was going to be about) the US does need a modern and reliable rifle to replace the M-16, preferably firing the new 6.8mm round.

The M-16 will do the job, but they need to replace the gas pulse system with a gas piston system. The latter is more dirt-tolerant and more reliable than the gas pulse system now in place. And I agree with changing the calibers from 5.56 to 6.8 SPC, though I doubt the army will do that as the U.S. was the nation that pushed hardest for the 5.56 to become the NATO standard cartridge.

Its a joke - The 5.56 does fine. The fact that it fragments makes it particulary good considering its weight. Has high speed and long range as well. It explodes in the body with devastating effects at short range if fired from at least a 14.5"(No one understood why until about 1986), and at long range it will only wound (taking a medic and possibly one other person for a total of up to 3 off the battlefield to help the wounded, instead of only 1 person). It is the best round for the job in my opinion. If armor penetration is needed, an M955 (tungsten core) round exists and it will penetrate 12 mm of armor from a simple M-16. M855 will penetrate 6mm with its steel core.

6.8 would be nice, but then you run into the ammo carrying capability of the standard foot soldier again - bigger calibre means less ammo carried. I'm not sold on this round.

HK is pushing for the adoption of it's 4.5 mm, so maybe we haven't seen the end of calibre shrink yet. I'd think it would be a mistake to go to this round over the 5.56, but HK insists it has better armor penetration. Maybe so, but I doubt it fragments like the 5.56.

-S

PS. I agree on using a gas piston.


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