Console wars
 

Well, I was always skepticle of the PS3, but I guess hearing from id's mouth on how much it sucks kind of convinces me on 2 things:

1. The X-Box 360 is the best platform for games as we traditionaly know them with tons of new graphics.

2. Wii is the best platform for 'fun' games if fun is what you are after.

Seems that PS3 is kind of not cracked up for what it should be. Maybe impresive for graphics in your immediate surroundings, but seems to be a limitation of size of those surroundings.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/926/92...d_2078293.html

-S

X-box 360 has been plagued with reliability problems.

I decided to get a Wii as I consider my PC better for any game that i'd want to play on an X-Box or a PS3.

Wii is a fun unit to play, especially when you have a few people around to play golf or bowling.

It does have it's problems.

1. It's ability to play flash movies from the internet was a major reason I purchased it. I wanted to be able to sit back and use the wiimote instead of a mouse. This however isn't really ideal as the system comes with a severe lack of memory, assuring that 1/4 through the band of brothers episode I was watching stalls AND due to the limitations of many online flash video players, you have to watch from the start when you reload the page.

2. Call of duty 3. Great game. But in intense fights I have frequently had problems with the system running out of juice. The controls become 'uncontrolable' frames per second drops into single digit area and it's basically un-playable. A sign that the Wii is just not as good as it needs to be hardware wise.


Still, it's a good machine but I would have been happy paying a little more for a more power. It needs more System memory and could have used a more powerful GPU, IMO they should have tried to rival the x-box with Power, that along with the wiimote would have ruled.

To me all the PS3 has going for it is the Blu-ray although i've heard it is a very poor quality drive in it.

X-Box will probably win with Wii getting a lot of sales with non-gamer markets. The PS3 will dwindle in sales causing game makers to not bother with it, causing a lack of games which causes a lack of people wanting one. The thing is too expensive.

Thank you, Neal.:smug: Have some of Granny Smith's cookies.

I had one... for a week. Then it melted on me and decided to burn a huge-ass hole in my carpet AND stink up my house with plastic stench for about a month. Long story, but I bought a PS3 and couldn't be happier (like the less complicated controller AND I think it's more comfortable).

And the PS3 is actually planning A LOT of exclusive games for late this year and mid 2008. They have a really cool looking one called PROTOTYPE which is a PS3-intended game and IT SOUNDS KICK-ASS (you can literally turn New York City into hell with punches that can cause earthquakes that dwarf the 1906 San Francisco quake). It's just so crazy, man. You need to look it up. PS3 actually has a pretty good take-off, so far.

360 Hater here!:lol:

Right, this is the most telling stat:

The 360 is currently using 80% of it's resources with the next gen games.
The PS3 is currently using 35% of it's resources with the next gen games.

Now, this tells me that the PS3 has more developmental room than the 360. Yes, the PS3 is still slow out of the starting blocks but it's catching up.

Also, as the PS3 is using Blueray Discs (35GB) the game of the future will fit nicely on to 1 disc, aka Metal Gear Solid 4 which has been finally announced as a PS3 exclusive because Kojima will not remove content to enable the 360 to play it on HDDVD.:lol:

The PS3 also has a FREE online service, none of this monthly, quarterly or yearly payment. With the approaching release of HOME, the PS3 community is ever increasing.

As for the video posted, is that a WIP for the a latest 360 game? If so, you need to compare that to a PS3 game which is similarly at the same stage of developement, in maybe 2 yrs.;) However, for now, you could compare it to the MSG4 Gameplay Video found here - http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/metal-gear-s...deo-40810.html
A 600mb HD downloadable version is also available from that link.

I bought a PS3 on launch day and I have not had 1 single problem with it. Infact, it's easily upgradable too.;) My PS3 now has a 250GB HDD installed (£100 GBP, how much does the additional/external HDD for the XBox cost:hmm:) & Linux (just for fun, never used it before:lol:)

Really, I feel that there is no contest, my prediction for Mid 2008 is PS3 > Wii > 360. Until mid 2008 we're not going to see the full extent of the PS3's power or games, probably later.

I suspect, we'll see the XBOX 720 in about 3 yrs time and the PS4 in about 6-7 yrs. Microsoft will want to get a jump on sales again.

LOL, at the end of the day, people will like the XBOX and others will like the PS3. We'll never agree on which is better in any aspect.:D

Whered you get that from? Cause I heard that the 360 had 3 cores and was only using one in the latest games. Each core being like 3.1 or something Ghz.

I'd like some literature plz.:p

Partly true:
Why have 3 cores and only use one?:p:hmm: What a crock. I don't believe that, where's the sense in holding back 2/3 of the 360's power?

As for my stats I posted, this is my take (& admittadely other PS3 users), drawing on the currently available games and new content available for both consoles. I don't hold much weight in what the respective devs have to say about each of their consoles respective power.

Consider this (a post of mine from another forum)
Now, I'll agree that this isn't hard & fast facts but until both consoles are on level par as far as dev/content is concerned we could 'dance' around this subject forever.

Personally, I think that while graphics and gameplay will level off between the two consoles, I think the PS3 will eventually take the lead in terms of improved physics & environmental effects, this is where the power of the PS3's Cell will shine.

Sorry for the large Gif.;) Example
I don't think the 360 will ever do this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...lzone2-1-1.gif

Hehe, please come back:p

Bah all the consoles can go to hell, all they are doing is stealing developers time away from developing games for the PC, the platform they should be focusing on.

Quoted for the truest statement in the universe that even the Gods agree with. :p

The next round of consoles will replace the traditional PC,:yep: in about 10yrs, so you've still got time.

I can already do 1/3rd of what my PC does on my PS3. Email, WEB, Picture editing, gaming etc and with the inclusion of mouse & keyboard control it's only a matter of time until some serious games/software content are ported.;)

Relax, it won't be the consoles as we know them now, more of a complete/integrated media center. The PC & Console will become one.:D

Pretty much the only difference in consoles and and PC's is the OS and the fact that consoles have the same hardware as in all ps3,s are the same and so on. That means that games are easyer to optimize for that system because programers dont have to deal with variables. But the fact that consoles arent as customizable and there is less to mess arround with makes them boring and since i can do anything a console can do on my PC they are allso pointless.

I think its like 2 races on different tracks headed for the same finish line. Already I can plug my PC into my TV and watch movies that way. Consoles are mimicing PCs essentially. The only advantage to a console is the standardized production which allows the package itself to be less expensive, but that comes at a cost of customizability and scalability. The PS3 may be the best one but its also the most expensive and its losing cash to stay close to competitive, that implies that its just as good as a high end PC with all the bells are whistles. So if the PS3 were priced how it should be to turn unit by unit profit then I might as well built a sick PC instead and use it as a media centre PC. And if games on PCs ran on Linux and OSX maybe we'd be able to get way better performance out of our machines. Windows is crap and sucks so much resource.

So will consoles really replace the PC? Or won't it just be the other way around?

Rumor has is this was the cause of Peter Moore "departing" from Microshaft.

And experienced programmer is 70% less productive on PS3 than on X360.

A novice programmer is 95% less productive on PS3.

Did you not bother to listen to Carmack talk about the PS3 in the above video? You are completely wrong on this point. The PS3 is out of resources when the 360 still has more to give. THis is why they develope the code to run on the PS3 first because if it runs there, then it will run on XBox 360 too since the 360 has more capability to deliver more content.

Go watch the video I just posted and then come back and re-state your opinions with fact.

-S

PS kicks Xbox's butt and HARD. My main reason for that statement; The games. Xbox came to the markets with one "good" game, the Halo (Which I still dont think of as nothing else than an average shoot-'em-up.). The PS has ben delivering the most varied and simply the most addicting games I've played (including PC games). It was used to revive the Metal Gear Solid series, Silent Hills, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy series.

I'll pick my rifle for PS in this war. ;)