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Canovaro 07-31-07 12:27 PM

Outrageous penalty for friendly kill
 
I had a fair amount of renown (1500) when I sunk a german merchant for about 11,000 grt. Okay it was stupid, I know.

But the same patrol I sunk 25,000 grt of allied ships and the next patrol another 29,000 grt of allied ships.

I still have -400 renown, and although it was a stupid mistake to sink that German ship, I think the penalty in renown is outrageous!
I can forget about any upgrades let alone a new boot.

:down:

XLjedi 07-31-07 12:32 PM

Sounds to me like you got off easy...

If it were realistic, you would've been court martialed, stripped of command and possibly served prison time or been shot.

Penelope_Grey 07-31-07 12:41 PM

Sink a hospital ship and see what happens! You defiinately got off lightly.:lol:

SmokinTep 07-31-07 12:48 PM

You're supposed to use your torpedos on the enemy............:lol:

Klaus_Doldinger 07-31-07 02:12 PM

U-333 also sank a german merchant. His commander, KL Cremer, was court-martialed but absolved, because the Spreewald (that was the ship) was in a wrong position.

I knew this story by a BdU message during a patrol. The last message said: "Cremer, Sie sind Idiot!":rotfl:

DirtyACE 07-31-07 02:15 PM

So I take it the Spreewald wasn't flying the German flag aside from being in the wrong position? Would you see his flag through the periscope?

danurve 07-31-07 03:00 PM

I saw shore batteries blast a Hospital ship just outside of Trondheim, bet THEY didn't get slapped :doh:

Interesting the mention of "Spreewald" An unfortunate occurance.
The radiolog eXpansion project has several messages covering Spreewald btw.

Klaus_Doldinger 07-31-07 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyACE
So I take it the Spreewald wasn't flying the German flag aside from being in the wrong position? Would you see his flag through the periscope?

Yes. The true story is that the "Spreewald" was flying the norwegian flag as the merchat "Elg" of that nationality. She used wrong radio codes and was in the wrong position, so Cremer sunk it. He just couldnīt imagine that he was in fact sinking a german merchant... who carried aboard 300 prisoners taken by the raider "Kormoran".

This story is taken from a phantastic U-boote page in spanish, Uhistoria.com:

http://www.u-historia.com/uhistoria/...inhistoria.htm

If you know spanish language, donīt forget to visit this page. Simply phantastic.

And also phantastic the work of GWX team: I received this message (a lot of messages between BdU and Cremer) while I was heading to Freetown aboard my boat.

GWX devteam, uhistoria. nice work!!:up: :up:

CapZap1970 08-01-07 02:02 PM

Do you think that was an outrageus penalty???? :nope:
Wait until you have to face a firing squad in Altona or Neuengamme.
Then you wil have reasons to cmplain about it. ;)
CapZap

STEED 08-01-07 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey
Sink a hospital ship and see what happens! You defiinately got off lightly.:lol:

Been there :yep:

Done it :up:

Who cares :lol:

Not me :rotfl:

Brag 08-01-07 05:24 PM

Canovaro: Go clean ashtrays at BDU. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Canovaro 08-02-07 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag
Canovaro: Go clean ashtrays at BDU. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Now that's what I would call a sim!
:lol:

GoldenRivet 08-02-07 04:04 PM

when you finish that you can clean the head of every ship in port right down to that rather trashed looking fishing trawler.

how did you manage to sink the german ship? Poor weather? thick fog? on purpose just to see what would happen?

SH3 does a pretty good job of splitting up the good guys from the bad guys... seems like a difficult mistake to make unless it was a long shot in weather at night or something.

Klaus_Doldinger 08-02-07 04:59 PM

That merchant was in the wrong place using the wrong codes.

(Attorney at law of KptLt. Canavaro):D

Brag 08-02-07 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus_Doldinger
That merchant was in the wrong place using the wrong codes.

(Attorney at law of KptLt. Canavaro):D

:huh: Los abogados ya llegaron hasta aqui! :eek:


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