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Heibges 07-07-07 04:39 PM

Texas outlaws love
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288536,00.html

In all fairness, they thought she was referring to 49'ers QB Alex Smith. Referring to the 49'ers in a positive manner is a crime all over Texas. :D

P_Funk 07-07-07 04:43 PM

Thats pretty stupid. I really hate blind laws like that. It reminds me of the kid in kindergarten or sommat like that who got suspended and maybe expelled for pointing a fish stick at a teacher and saying "BANG!". This of course being in the aftermath of Columbine.

Sometimes its just asinine.

P_Funk 07-07-07 04:50 PM

EDIT. Weird sommat happened to what I replied to.

07-07-07 04:59 PM

This is where laws have unintended consequences and where less government is good.

P_Funk 07-07-07 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
This is where laws have unintended consequences and where less government is good.

I wouldn't say less government so much as flexible government. Its when you don't interpret the law and only take its most literal and extreme value that you begin to get this kind of trouble. There are cases when there is too much law or too little flexibility built in, but here I think its mostly bad administration to blame.

07-07-07 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_Funk
Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
This is where laws have unintended consequences and where less government is good.

I wouldn't say less government so much as flexible government. Its when you don't interpret the law and only take its most literal and extreme value that you begin to get this kind of trouble. There are cases when there is too much law or too little flexibility built in, but here I think its mostly bad administration to blame.

Laws are funny that way. The law or the administration of, or the enforcement of, the law isn't up for interpretation, until it reaches an appeals court.

So I will stand by my statement that, less government is a good thing.

TteFAboB 07-07-07 07:31 PM

Damn. If I were the principal I'd disobey the rules and just make her...clean it up with her tongue. Hope the ink isn't toxic!
:hulk: :arrgh!:

FIREWALL 07-08-07 10:45 AM

The law's the law.
You break it , you pay the penalty. re. P. H.

P_Funk 07-08-07 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL
The law's the law.
You break it , you pay the penalty. re. P. H.

But if the law is unjust fundamentally then it isn't a law. Thats why they get stricken down.

FIREWALL 07-08-07 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL
The law's the law.
You break it , you pay the penalty. re. P. H.

But if the law is unjust fundamentally then it isn't a law. Thats why they get stricken down.

The rule that girl broke hasn't been stricken down.
So your reasoning doesn't apply.

There's no fundamentally about it.
The law is a law until it's changed.

P_Funk 07-08-07 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL
The rule that girl broke hasn't been stricken down.
So your reasoning doesn't apply.

There's no fundamentally about it.
The law is a law until it's changed.

True. But unjust laws can still be protested. And there doesn't seem to be a need to interpret a law so religiously when its obvious that it was not written with this little girl's circumstance in mind.

FIREWALL 07-08-07 05:45 PM

Since this will probably won't go beyond the the school Superintendant's
level it's a legal moot point.

A protest is a good thing and bring's it to the public's attention.
But if that doesn't make the School Superintendant change that rule or lessen the girls penalty
it will require a legal challenge.

P_Funk 07-08-07 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL
Since this will probably won't go beyond the the school Superintendant's
level it's a legal moot point.

A protest is a good thing and bring's it to the public's attention.
But if that doesn't make the School Superintendant change that rule or lessen the girls penalty
it will require a legal challenge.

Which is why the extreme interpretation of that law was a stupid thing to do in the first place. I doubt very much that anyone would have made a big deal. There are laws that make sense and then there are ones that don't. There are so many laws that are unconstitutional that haven't been stricken down simply because nobody has bothered with them.

But hopefully because this is already a story that people are reading it should lead to a clarification of the law's intent to prevent any more idiocy like this from happening.


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