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Heibges 06-11-07 03:25 PM

Powell Urges Gitmo Closure
 
From the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6739745.stm

From MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19153972/

Slightly different focus from Fox
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,280457,00.html

The Avon Lady 06-11-07 03:32 PM

They can move in with Paris. :p

GakunGak 06-11-07 04:30 PM

I'm with Colin on this one...
Guantanamo should be closed and not opened again!:damn:

Chock 06-11-07 04:32 PM

How much make up does Colin Powell have on in that picture on the first link?!!

He looks like he's made out of foam rubber in that shot (compare his face with his hands).

:D Chock

GakunGak 06-11-07 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chock
How much make up does Colin Powell have on in that picture on the first link?!!

He looks like he's made out of foam rubber in that shot (compare his face with his hands).

:D Chock

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...ll1_ap203b.jpg
You mean his lipstick?:lol:

Happy Times 06-11-07 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
They can move in with Paris. :p

You are sadistic..

GakunGak 06-11-07 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
They can move in with Paris. :p

You are sadistic..

I wouldn't complain....:lol:

robbo180265 06-11-07 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
They can move in with Paris. :p

HILTON - I get it! I thought you were having a go at the French;)

Jokes aside, if they did move in with Paris at least then they'd have the right to defend themselves

"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

I couldn't agree more.

06-11-07 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
They can move in with Paris. :p

HILTON - I get it! I thought you were having a go at the French;)

Jokes aside, if they did move in with Paris at least then they'd have the right to defend themselves

"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

I couldn't agree more.

This isn't a legal issue. Its a war issue. We treated attacks on the US as a legal issue under the previous administration and for our efforts the attacks on the WTC occured. A change in policy is both needed and appropriate.

Heibges 06-11-07 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
They can move in with Paris. :p

HILTON - I get it! I thought you were having a go at the French;)

Jokes aside, if they did move in with Paris at least then they'd have the right to defend themselves

"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

I couldn't agree more.

This isn't a legal issue. Its a war issue. We treated attacks on the US as a legal issue under the previous administration and for our efforts the attacks on the WTC occured. A change in policy is both needed and appropriate.

I almost agree. I think it is an intelligence issue, and not a military issue.

robbo180265 06-11-07 05:57 PM

But surely you can see that innocent people could get detained by mistake,and if that happens America can hardly stand for "Truth and Justice" can it?


"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

That's exactly right.

Ok America isn't sawing the heads off it's captives,but it's not exactly treating them as a civilised society should either IMO.

tenakha 06-11-07 06:37 PM

Everyone should have the right to a fair trial, every man is innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around...

06-11-07 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265
But surely you can see that innocent people could get detained by mistake,and if that happens America can hardly stand for "Truth and Justice" can it?


"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

That's exactly right.

Ok America isn't sawing the heads off it's captives,but it's not exactly treating them as a civilised society should either IMO.

That we discuss the issue says we are treating those in GTMO in a civilized manner. If the US had rejected the ideal of "Truth and Justice" the GTMO detainees would be dead. No one would have know they even existed. End of the discussion.

By contrast look at Germany, the Soviet Union, Argentina. Not 'til after the fact is any discussion existant.

GakunGak 06-11-07 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265
But surely you can see that innocent people could get detained by mistake,and if that happens America can hardly stand for "Truth and Justice" can it?


"Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission."

That's exactly right.

Ok America isn't sawing the heads off it's captives,but it's not exactly treating them as a civilised society should either IMO.

That we discuss the issue says we are treating those in GTMO in a civilized manner. If the US had rejected the ideal of "Truth and Justice" the GTMO detainees would be dead. No one would have know they even existed. End of the discussion.

By contrast look at Germany, the Soviet Union, Argentina. Not 'til after the fact is any discussion existant.

Some represent it as a hotel with 5 stars...:damn:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1766037.stm

GakunGak 06-11-07 06:49 PM

Here's the vacation for ya, fellas:
http://www.infowars.net/pictures/feb07/080207gitmo2.jpghttp://www.infowars.net/pictures/feb07/080207gitmo.jpg
So much for human right at camp delta...


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