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XabbaRus 04-24-07 01:29 PM

The Earth Day Concert
 
You know how a whole bunch of pop singers around the world are going to be doing this earth aid concert to "raise our awareness" of climate change?

I have been wondering if anyone has worked out howmuch these concerts are going to contribute to carbon emissions.

You have to look at the electricity being produced to power all the equipment, the impact of people travelling too and from the event, road, rail and air. So anyone think it is just a bunch of BS with most of the participants doing it to keep their profileup and looking like they care, eg Chris Martin from ColdPlay?

Where are all the ones who did Band Aid 20 etc.....

04-24-07 01:36 PM

Spot on.

STEED 04-24-07 01:37 PM

It's far to late to do a bloody thing about it.

Tchocky 04-24-07 01:38 PM

Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating

04-24-07 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating

That is another interesting thing about the 'global warming' debate. Seems one can buy his/her way out of it, either by direct payments/donations or carbon credits. I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? Sound like the indulgences/dispensations the Catholic Church used to sell for entrance to heaven.

Tchocky 04-24-07 01:50 PM

It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

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I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?
money can be exchanged for goods and services :)

04-24-07 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

Quote:

I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?
money can be exchanged for goods and services :)

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

August 04-24-07 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by Tchocky
It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p

Quote:

I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis?
money can be exchanged for goods and services :)

And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Not only that, the devil is in the definitions. Do they include everything? Such as the gas people used to get to the concert, the power and pollution caused to advertize it? The trash it generated? I wonder...

bradclark1 04-24-07 02:42 PM

I look at it this way. I'm kind of green but my thinking behind it and probably behind a lot of greenies is to push hard for research and alternatives.
Every time this comes up the choir begins about how shallow thinking people thinks that to be green you have to drive a horse and buggy. Its not about switching off every light when not in use it's about finding a different way.

STEED 04-24-07 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
horse and buggy.

Summer is here, a horse and cart lots of fresh air and free horse sh*t for the garden. :sunny:

Kapitan_Phillips 04-24-07 03:17 PM

I'd go if there was actually a band worth going to see going :rotfl:

Tchocky 04-24-07 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets

04-24-07 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by waste gate
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.

Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets

And to think I thought it was about saving the planet!!??!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

U-533 04-24-07 05:09 PM

http://newsbusters.org/node/12226


Good luck to ya.

KevinB 04-26-07 10:57 AM

The only ones who will be benefiting albeit they're doing it free will be the artists themselves. After the concert watch their album sales soar.


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