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03-30-07 06:27 PM

Firearms yes or no
 
As a means of defense, are the use of firearms any less worthy than martial arts?
I attempted to post some parts of the martial arts thread, but, I was unsuccessful.

My opinion is that firearms are no less legitimate as a means of self defense than any other. Am I wrong?

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:28 PM

I agree. You can't punch or kick someone across a room...

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:31 PM

BUT, in a situation where the fight becomes "CQ" (Close Quarters), firearms loose quite a bit of advantage. In all, it depends on the situation you're in.

1mPHUNit0 03-30-07 06:33 PM

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I agree. You can't punch or kick someone across a room...
Yes but you have to put your opponent in a room
And that's it's not so simple if your opponent it's more dinamic
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In all, it depends on the situation you're in.
and depends on knowledge of the situation

Penelope_Grey 03-30-07 06:33 PM

I don't think guns are really as good as Martial Arts when it comes to defending ones self. As to my mind, a gun is an offensive weapon which epitomises the saying, "the best defence is a good offence" guns can kill, Martial Arts can kill, but a skilled Martial Artist cannot accidentally kill someone, they have to do it deliberately, which if they do makes them a murderer. But you can unintentionally kill someone with a gun, there is a good chance of that.

However, both a gun, and Martial Arts knowledge in the wrong hands can be lethal.

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1mPHUNit0
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I agree. You can't punch or kick someone across a room...
Yes but you have to put your opponent in a room
And that's it's not so simple if your opponent it's more dinamic

And if the opponent puts himself in your bedroom..., it's .357 bullet through his noggin.



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Originally Posted by Penelope Grey
but a skilled Martial Artist cannot accidentally kill someone

That kind of thinking is bad. Anyone, MA master or the most accurate shooter in the world, can kill someone unintentionally.

1mPHUNit0 03-30-07 06:43 PM

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That kind of thinking is bad. Anyone, MA master or the most accurate shooter in the world, can kill someone unintentionally.
Hahahahahaha
You are so funny

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:45 PM

Ah, so in your mind a MA master is infallable? That's how accidents happen.:yep:

Penelope_Grey 03-30-07 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
That kind of thinking is bad. Anyone, MA master or the most accurate shooter in the world, can kill someone unintentionally.

Oh really? And this kind of thinking is good then;

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And if the opponent puts himself in your bedroom..., it's .357 bullet through his noggin.

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:48 PM

When it comes to defence of your property and family, yes.

1mPHUNit0 03-30-07 06:50 PM

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Ah, so in your mind a MA master is infallable? That's how accidents happen
You don't know what you are sayng dear.
If you put a gun in front and ...bang.....the error it's not
the bang...but to put the gun in front

Penelope_Grey 03-30-07 06:50 PM

Well I'll have to remember that in case I murder someone, I can say I was defending myself so it was ok.

03-30-07 06:50 PM

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Stability
Dynamics
Calm
knowledge
And so on....they are
Guns alone are nothing
I took the above quote from the 'Martial Arts' thread I believe it comes from 1mPHUNit0 (that's a mouthful).

As I said B4 all these attributes come into play with defence using a firearm, perhaps even more so.

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1mPHUNit0
You don't know what you are sayng dear.
If you put a gun in front and ...bang.....the error it's not
the bang...but to put the gun in front


Yes, I do know what I'm saying. Thanks for trying to clarify, though.

Otherwise, you're saying I should just let the intruder have a field day in my home? Not everyone is a MA master, you know. (I know P-G is going to say "And not everyone is a good shot, either:know:)

ASWnut101 03-30-07 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey
Well I'll have to remember that in case I murder someone, I can say I was defending myself so it was ok.


Yes.


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