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Kapitan_Phillips 03-28-07 12:34 PM

US attack on Iran?
 
Is that a legit story on the front page, or a hoax? I want to believe the latter :dead:

Enigma 03-28-07 12:37 PM

It's one reporters opinion based on his "sources" from what I can tell. I would highly doubt it.

But hey, we have 2 strike carrier groups out there. We are ramping up war games. Our current administration loves political suicide. why not?

TLAM Strike 03-28-07 12:39 PM

This will no doubt be postponed due to my April 2 invason of Earth followed by my April 3 victory celibration. :yep:

Enigma 03-28-07 12:48 PM

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April 3 victory celibration
Oohh, can we come? :yep:

03-28-07 01:09 PM

Have we heard what it looks like on the Iranian side of the border?

The Iranians took captive 15 Brits recently, tested new missles, launched subs, threatened another legitimate nation with annihihatalion (Isreal), thumbed their noses at the UN, fund, God only knows, how many terrorist groups, need I go on?
I do not claim to know what the Iranians are getting at, but it looks as if they want something very badly.

ASWnut101 03-28-07 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
But hey, we have 2 strike carrier groups out there. We are ramping up war games. Our current administration loves political suicide. why not?


Oh, and the Iranians are ramping up the wargames, not us Enigma. The only one attempting political (and literal) suicide would be Mr. Achmedinijad.


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It's one reporters opinion based on his "sources" from what I can tell. I would highly doubt it.
For once, I agree. The only way we are going to attack Iran at this point is if they strike first.

Enigma 03-28-07 02:44 PM

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Oh, and the Iranians are ramping up the wargames, not us Enigma. The only one attempting political (and literal) suicide would be Mr. Achmedinijad.
Dont get me wrong, I agree %100. My point was simply that it isnt beyond our administration to take unneccesary military action under dangerous pretenses. Thats all.

Having said that, when I said we were ramping up war games, I was referring to, well, the US ramping up war games.

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The US Navy has begun its most extensive manoeuvres in the Gulf region since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but denies sabre-rattling aimed at Iran.

Two aircraft carriers, plus their strike groups, have sailed to the region and have begun war games involving as many as 100 US war planes. The exercises follow Iran's capture of 15 British navy personnel, and high tension over its nuclear programme.
..Simply pointing out that 2 carrier groups, a french carrier, war games, and supposedly massing on the border smells like a fight is about to begin. However. Agree with you (for once? I had no idea..) that we are not about to start a war with Iran without being hit first.

Iceman 03-28-07 02:48 PM

:o Don't ask me why but this thread made me think of this song here...:o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iupbNAGVaJc

ASWnut101 03-28-07 02:49 PM

Whoa, random!:lol:

ASWnut101 03-28-07 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
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Oh, and the Iranians are ramping up the wargames, not us Enigma. The only one attempting political (and literal) suicide would be Mr. Achmedinijad.
Dont get me wrong, I agree %100. My point was simply that it isnt beyond our administration to take unneccesary military action under dangerous pretenses. Thats all.

Having said that, when I said we were ramping up war games, I was referring to, well, the US ramping up war games.

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The US Navy has begun its most extensive manoeuvres in the Gulf region since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but denies sabre-rattling aimed at Iran.

Two aircraft carriers, plus their strike groups, have sailed to the region and have begun war games involving as many as 100 US war planes. The exercises follow Iran's capture of 15 British navy personnel, and high tension over its nuclear programme.



..Simply pointing out that 2 carrier groups, a french carrier, war games, and supposedly massing on the border smells like a fight is about to begin. However. Agree with you (for once? I had no idea..) that we are not about to start a war with Iran without being hit first.

I hardly call "moneuvers" "war games." But, what ever.

Enigma 03-28-07 02:55 PM

Um...ok? I mean, its right there in the article. 100 planes conducting strike maneuvers. Is Red Flag a war game? How is this not a war game?

Nevermind. Silly argument.

Penelope_Grey 03-28-07 02:59 PM

What puzzles me is why the warship allowed those 15 men to be taken in the first place without doing something!

Tchocky 03-28-07 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey
What puzzles me is why the warship allowed those 15 men to be taken in the first place without doing something!

From the Beeb -


The officer at the Ministry of Defence justified the lack of reaction by the British personnel. Their rules of engagement, he said, were adequate for self-defence, but they were taken by surprise as they left the ship they had inspected.


Two Iranian boats with far heavier weapons - rocket launchers and heavy machine guns against rifles and pistols - came alongside after indicating a friendly attitude.
Communications were lost immediately and then the two British boats were escorted by the Iranians and about four other Iranian boats "swarmed" in.

Some gaps in British preparations were evident from what the officer said. A Lynx helicopter monitoring the boarding had returned to the mother ship HMS Cornwall, which could not get nearer because of shallow water, and by the time the Cornwall realised what has happening, the British were on the Iranian side.
Iranian boats had about "three minutes" in which they made their approach, according to the officer, but nobody on the British side saw them. Mr Blair said the attitude of the British personnel had been "entirely sensible". If they had fired, there would "undoubtedly have been severe loss of life".

03-28-07 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Um...ok? I mean, its right there in the article. 100 planes conducting strike maneuvers. Is Red Flag a war game? How is this not a war game?

Nevermind. Silly argument.

The US Air Force Red Flag is an exercise designed to put pilots under the stress of ACM with a reduced risk to life and limb. The exercise is intended to place pilots in situations which approximate actual combat. The end is to allow pilots to engage the enemy at a tactical level having seen the afore mentioned enemy's tactics and recognizing those tactics and how to respond to those tactics with the ultimate end being the death of the opposition.

Enigma 03-28-07 03:14 PM

Yeah, I know. I live beneath where the jets take of from. I sit on mountains and watch them do it. It's a war game.


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