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ASWnut101 02-05-07 07:54 PM

Nuclear Power: Yay or Nay?
 
Well, I want to hear your opinions on Nuclear Power (Land Based). Is it a good idea because of it cleanliness and safety? Or does the waste disposal issue outweigh the benifits?

baggygreen 02-05-07 07:57 PM

Im all for it.

We got a big debate going on here with the opposition saying they'll never go to nuclear power, n the govt lookin at the feasibility. Im all for it, i think that it is only a matter of time before fossil fuels are almost gone. I dont have any figures, but am of the opinion that it'll be within my kids' lifetime.

Ducimus 02-05-07 08:23 PM

Im all for nuclear power because it gets us away from fossil fuels. But we must have the most strict regulations, management, and supervision of waste disposal. Not to mention powerplant operations. We don't want anymore long islands.

Theres only one problem with nuclear power. That problem being the banner that every American waves no matter where they live in the country, for this and many other issues or proposals:


"NIMBY"

baggygreen 02-05-07 08:30 PM

nimby??

baggygreen 02-05-07 08:32 PM

oh of course, not in my back yard.

sorry, not up with internet slang. or is it down?:hmm:

Mush Martin 02-05-07 08:38 PM

the cyclic nature of systems
 
of all the options that we have the chance to grossly mismanage

Nuclear power is the best option

assuming we are able to learn how not to mismanage whatever option
we choose.

MM

Ducimus 02-05-07 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
oh of course, not in my back yard.

sorry, not up with internet slang. or is it down?:hmm:

Nah, thats not internet slang. Real life term. Probably an old one though.

The Noob 02-05-07 08:43 PM

Yes, the civilisation demands more power, this is the only realistic way to produce it. The problem is, if a meltdown occurs, the results are fatal, as chernobyl has shown. Also, the waste disposal method is retarded. Do they really think barrieing the waste below the earth so you cant see it wont cause long term problems?

If it would be like, shot into space, that would rule.

fatty 02-05-07 08:46 PM

I think that acronym actually predates the internet as we know it :know:

Of course, regarding waste disposal, we can always take a page from the Russians and fight fire with fire!

Quote:

According to a report in Izvestiya on 6 May 1997, Minister of Atomic Energy Viktor Mikhailov, Minister of Defense General Pavel Grachev, and Chief Military Inspector General Konstantin Kobets wrote in a 4 July 1994 confidential letter to Russian President Boris Yeltsin that the accumulation of spent nuclear fuel from nuclear-powered submarines and naval surface vessels poses the main radioactive waste handling threat to Russia. As a solution, the Central Physical-Technical Institute of the Ministry of Defense and the All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Experimental Physics (VNIIEF) in Sarov (Arzamas-16) proposed using an underground nuclear explosion technique to vitrify and bury the radioactive waste in tunnels at the Central Atomic Test Site at Novaya Zemlya.
I thought they actually did this in practice but I can't find any other mention of it.

Ducimus 02-05-07 08:57 PM

I wonder how cost effecitve it would be to just shoot the s**t into space. :lol: Not like we'll ever set aside our differences and explore it anyway.

ASWnut101 02-05-07 09:02 PM

very good idea, Noob and Ducimus, but there ARE drawbacks.

1. If the Rocket you use to launch it fails and crashes, you have a VERY bad problem.

2. That would require one heavy lifting rocket to launch the stuff, which is also pretty expensive.

Ducimus 02-05-07 09:21 PM

Hey , you know.... dream a little dream ;)

Reality is we'll probably never switch to using more nuclear power, we wont be shooting any waste into space (let alone explore it), and we'll continue using fossil fuels tell the wells dry up. Resistance to change is human nature. Im a gross offender of that myself.

CptSimFreak 02-05-07 10:09 PM

Fission is the only power until tokamak can do fusion properly.....and that's not going to be for sometime.

LoBlo 02-05-07 11:06 PM

From what I understand, scientist are making steady progress in fusion (the topomak etc) and its predicted that by 2060 it will be effecient enough to compete with fossil fuel electric plants.

Those new generator IV reactors being researched sure look cool though. Seems like the one of the designs might one day be applicable to subs one day:hmm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_IV_reactor

Kapitan_Phillips 02-06-07 05:22 AM

Waste disposal by firing into space, huh?


Where's my Howitzer :hmm:


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