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JboX88 02-04-07 02:48 AM

Question about convoy location
 
So, just a little bit ago I was on a patrol and I get a radio message saying something like-
"convoy al6233 on course east; 7 knots"
What does the AL 6233 part mean?? I'm guessing it's the location of the convoy, but what is AL 6233, I thought they only contain 2 digits:-?

gdogghenrikson 02-04-07 03:00 AM

Are you Using GWX

melnibonian 02-04-07 06:20 AM

Because the actual patrol grids were a bit big they were further arranged in smaller ones that SH3 does not use. Have a look at this http://www.uboataces.com/articles-naval-grid.shtml

Jimbuna 02-04-07 06:33 AM

FYI....you are aware that the message is just 'eye candy' and to help in the immersion of the game :yep:

Mav87th 02-04-07 07:00 AM

Locations were actualy set with 4 digits. They work like a numerical keyboard. with 1, 3, 7 and 9 in corners etc. First you find AL then find 6 (middle right) then divide that square up in 9 fields like the keypad - now find 2 (top middle) devide that place up again in 9 fields - now find 3 (top right) and again for 3. It actualy gets a pretty close location.

As you can see on the krigsmarine karte 1870 G - the square AL62 is about 0,8 x 0,8 degree's (roughly 50x60 miles) - the two aditional digits gives 0,09 degree accuracy for a location or roughly 10 times more precise (5 x 6 miles)

DISCLAMER - above calculations were done using headmath and rough numbers - longitudal and latitudal lenght depends on place on earth.

JboX88 02-04-07 12:06 PM

First of all- Yes, I am using GWX.
Thanks guys, it makes sense now, but are these radio messages really just fake, eye-candy? No convoy is really there?:cry:

High Voltage 02-04-07 12:19 PM

Sorry but it's true.
I too spent many a fruitless day running an intercept based on one of these fictional messages. Someone here had the right idea in saying that you should treat them as English counter-intelligence messages designed to send you on a wild goose-chase. Remember if it doesn't come via ENIGMA, it's a TRAP!!!:dead::dead::dead:

fredbass 02-04-07 12:21 PM

Radio messages are eye candy but radio contact reports are real.:up:

JboX88 02-04-07 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredbass
Radio messages are eye candy but radio contact reports are real.:up:

Confusing me even more....:lol:
I'm thinking that will make more sense once I get in-game.
(Distinguish between radio MESSAGES and radio CONTACT REPORTS)

High Voltage 02-04-07 12:33 PM

A radio message is just that, you will hear the morse code signifying its' arrival. A radio contact will appear as a ship or convoy somewhere on the map. Note the time, speed and direction by clicking on the icon, and plan your intercept course accordingly. :know:

Rykaird 02-04-07 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Voltage
A radio message is just that, you will hear the morse code signifying its' arrival. A radio contact will appear as a ship or convoy somewhere on the map. Note the time, speed and direction by clicking on the icon, and plan your intercept course accordingly. :know:

So the message that I received - addressed to my U-boat - which said:

"SSS . . . 52.11N, 01.43E, SS MAGDAPUR"

is nothing more than English trickery? That explains why it came in on an open frequency.

johan_d 02-04-07 05:50 PM

Verwunde mein Herz mit eintoeniger Mattigkeit

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Jimbuna 02-04-07 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rykaird
Quote:

Originally Posted by High Voltage
A radio message is just that, you will hear the morse code signifying its' arrival. A radio contact will appear as a ship or convoy somewhere on the map. Note the time, speed and direction by clicking on the icon, and plan your intercept course accordingly. :know:

So the message that I received - addressed to my U-boat - which said:

"SSS . . . 52.11N, 01.43E, SS MAGDAPUR"

is nothing more than English trickery? That explains why it came in on an open frequency.

Eye candy :yep:

bigboywooly 02-04-07 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rykaird
Quote:

Originally Posted by High Voltage
A radio message is just that, you will hear the morse code signifying its' arrival. A radio contact will appear as a ship or convoy somewhere on the map. Note the time, speed and direction by clicking on the icon, and plan your intercept course accordingly. :know:

So the message that I received - addressed to my U-boat - which said:

"SSS . . . 52.11N, 01.43E, SS MAGDAPUR"

is nothing more than English trickery? That explains why it came in on an open frequency.

Its on an open frequency as its an SSS message
All the messages in GWX that refer to convoy attacks\boat sinkings etc are historical messages

So you dont feel alone out there


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