GWX circle of death
 

i just put in the new CWX mod.
seems every time i go out i get swarmed by the enemy .
i get 2 to 3 DD or flower class ships that circle me within 300 meters and i just cant slip away. and even an armed TUG ?? this is funny.
cant even get a shot off because there to close to me UGH.
can we turn down the ai sensors a bitt ???
:cry:

What year are you playing in and how long have you had SH3 ?

You have to think like a Uboat Kpt
Its not the SH3 arcade game any more where you can sail on the surface at high speed and do as you like

Silent running of 2 kts and under will help you lose the ships above
However if you are always surrounded by 2 or 3 ships you are obviousley doing something wrong before then for them to find you in such numbers

Convoy attacks need to be planned with stealth in mind

Later in the war I have had multiple escorts above and got away
Not always

The later the war goes on the more esorts are out there

Read the manual
Some great tips in there

Hi mate! the sensors is made that way for realism. but there are ways to change that! :up:
EDIT: bbw beat me to it...... :-)

in a nut shell
 

ok crusing around north west england in the shipping lanes.
1st i get airplanes i dive ,here comes a dd or flower.
then he calls for more help.
mean while im at the bottom duing 2 knots in silent mode dogging depth charges.
and make turns away from disaster and trying to slip away only to die.

One of the first lessons I took with GWX was: avoid shallow waters. Now I avoid the Northern See as much as I can, and go north or west, to do my job on the shelf boarder. If I'd have to chase my prey to area shallower thn 200 metres, I drop it and wait till the next possibility.

Shallow is another word for death, man. With GWX 'death' got also some other brothers and sisters, like:
- channel,
- surface,
- moon,
- good weather,
- sunrise,
- bravery...
- rush.

Life has only three sisters I know personally:
- fear,
- patience,
- caution.

Welcome to the Doom Club!
You're probably doing something to attract trouble. Get spotted by aircraft, or making too much noise. NEVER approach a convoy at more than 3 knots. Allways approach in SILENT running (keyboard Z). The moment you see an airplane dive. Same with any warship.

In my last patrol, must of my contacts were with warships. But I did sink one destroyer. Had to skulk away back to Kiel with a heavily damaged boat and low tonnage.

Read the manual and visit my website.

Be afraid, very afraid :roll:

The arcade days of stock SHIII are long gone, glad to say. :up:

Five Degree Solution
 

Try this. Go as deep as possible, slow, and set your rudder to 5 degree turn in any direction. You can vary this with 10 degrees. You can even zig and zag slowly, back and forth every 5 minutes along a path line.

The escorts seem to have trouble with this rudder stuff. When they get a fix on you they go for a spot in the sea. You keep moving away at minor degree turns.

This is more difficult with multiple escorts but try it.

Low and slow. The night time is the right time. Shadow from far off. Do the end round and attack at night. It can be done! Think like a Kaleun and react like one. The days of blazing in are over! It is much more challenging.

Once you sink a few, run deep and run at 2kts. Silent running. Zig zag. It can work!

I used to have lots of problems with the dying thing, I still have a hard time but I’ve gotten a lot better. I used to charge right up to the convoys full blast but after reading some the posts from the old guys, I’ve been paying more attention to keeping from being heard from the enemy, just in doing that I saw a lot of improvement. Although even in the GWX when I’m trying to sneak up on a convoy, they are always sending a DD back to check the area that I’m in. Most of the time now I come away with more DD kills than merchants.

You can get in there even in day light. Normally the convoy has a warship at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. If you can get ahead of the convoy. Stay at say 40m, silent, 2kts. Make the approach at the 1-2 o'clock position as they are headed towards you. Once the lead warships passes you(once you get past the 12 o'clock warship, you are good), raise to scope depth, open your doors, take your bearings. Wait for the convoy to come over you. Let them have it, go deep and silent. Exit the back of the convoy. Works every time.

it seem that 90% of the time i always end up looking at the rear of the convoy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well i guess that's how i picked me wife,

Funny, me too. Come in from the stern on the surface and only at night! Submerged you will never have enough speed. The end round to get infront is always my favorite attack position day or night.

A circle could be a good way to chase submarines because while one scort is doing a attack run , others are stopped in the water tracking the contact and sending signals to the others.

the scorts are attacking in turns whith the sub in the middle of the "circle"

I know I am no authority what-so-ever, but my problem with approaching a convoy at 2-3 knots is that I cant get into the convoy. I usually spot it some distance of, and really have to speed up to be able to collide with it, or else it just goes straight past me, at a large range.