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_Seth_ 11-29-06 02:27 AM

Meters or Yards??
 
As i live in Norway, i am used to the metric system. This makes it easy for me playing SHIII.. I guess SHIV wil use the Yard system (i dont know the name for this, sorry..), since this was the system used by USA in the pacific. Do you think this require a whole lot of calculations/convertions during gameplay, or will it be a possibility to select the measuring unit by yourself? Not that i find these calculations difficult, but considering that ubisoft wishes to reach out to as many as possible, i think this should be included.

Sulikate 11-29-06 05:20 AM

I think there should be an option to choose between metric and imperial system (I think that's the name). Other game have it, and I always use the metric units because they are used in my country.

JSF 11-29-06 06:02 AM

I can't imagine Ubisoft not including these options you are looking for.

Rosencrantz 11-29-06 06:32 AM

Well, I'm european too, but for me meters vs. yards is not a question.

1 yard = 0.9144 meters = all most the same, especially in submarine war. After reading E. Beach books more than ten years ago, and playing with SHI, I can't even imagine to use meters in pacific. :)



You can allways try to learn something new! Right?


Greetings,

-RC-

elanaiba 11-29-06 07:33 AM

I like the imperial system, in some ways it makes more sense.

1 yard = 3 feet (depth and heights are measured in feet)
1 NM ~ 2000 yards

Etc...

Corsair 11-29-06 09:30 AM

Imagine if they used fathoms for the depth !!!:o

elanaiba 11-29-06 10:19 AM

Why not? 1 fathom = 2 yards!

Sailor Steve 11-29-06 11:18 AM

Being an American of course I was raised with the imperial system, but I have no trouble using meters in SHIII. I don't try to convert them in my head, I just take it at face value and accept it. That way makes it easy.

I agree, SH4 should have both, and I hope it will. If not, here are some more things to worry about:

1 fathom = 6 feet = 2 yards (already mentioned)
1 league = 3 miles
1 cable = 200 yards (mostly used with sailing ships)
1 ton = 2000 pounds, but 1 long ton (used to measure ship displacements) = 2240 pounds
1 hundredweight (cwt)(used by the British to measure the weight of guns) = 112 pounds
1 nautical mile = 6080 feet = 2026.6667 yards
1 statute (land) mile = 5280 feet = 1760 yards

Yes, metric is much easier, but as Tim Allen said in Galaxy Quest, "Never give up, never surrender!":rotfl:

bookworm_020 11-29-06 05:13 PM

The US is one of only three countries that still use the imperial units for measurement. The others is Myanmar(Burma) and Liberia.

Talk about the US being third world:huh:

Frateloder 11-29-06 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bookworm_020
The US is one of only three countries that still use the imperial units for measurement. The others is Myanmar(Burma) and Liberia.

Talk about the US being third world:huh:

Well, we do use a few metric measurements alongside the "english" system. We use "liters" some of the time (i.e. 2 liter bottles of soda), although gallon is still the standard large volume measurement. I've noticed that some food companies are slowly switching from "pints" and "quarts" to "200ml" or "500ml" as well.

Almost all mechanics and technicians have a set of metric tools along with english tools.... and our military has gone almost completely metric (they don't even use miles anymore).

I'd say, judging by what I just wrote, that we're in the beginning stages of converting over to metric. I don't think the country can be pushed along without government regulation, though... and it would take a long time to convert since people can be so stubborn about such things.

So, in conclusion, we're more like "second world" :lol:

Frateloder 11-29-06 05:41 PM

P.S. Just be aware that you shouldn't take a Gato much past 300 feet and you shouldn't take a Balao much past 400.

:up:

_Seth_ 11-29-06 09:29 PM

Great replys, mateys! Another question: Was there a Grid system used in the pacific (similar to the german), or can we navigate with degrees, minutes and seconds?

TheSatyr 11-29-06 09:57 PM

They used patrol areas...not grids. I think there were around 14 patrol areas,which meant that US boats had to cover alot more territory while hunting than the U-Boats did.

Not quite sure how it was handled when multiple subs operated in the same patrol area...I think they used lattitude and longitude for the patrol boundaries in that situation.

_Seth_ 11-29-06 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSatyr
They used patrol areas...not grids. I think there were around 14 patrol areas,which meant that US boats had to cover alot more territory while hunting than the U-Boats did.

Not quite sure how it was handled when multiple subs operated in the same patrol area...I think they used lattitude and longitude for the patrol boundaries in that situation.

:huh::huh: 14 areas??? Wow! Just 14 in all of the great pacific.. just imagine getting a radio message: "Convoy spotted in area xxxxx" ! LoL!!! Happy hunting, if we find anything! :rotfl:
I surely hope latitudes & longitudes are implemented, together with celestial navigation.....:yep:

elanaiba 11-30-06 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSatyr
They used patrol areas...not grids. I think there were around 14 patrol areas,which meant that US boats had to cover alot more territory while hunting than the U-Boats did.

Not quite sure how it was handled when multiple subs operated in the same patrol area...I think they used lattitude and longitude for the patrol boundaries in that situation.

Care to shed more info on this? Or point me to the right direction?

Re: the original thread.

I think you guys should see this as an interesting challenge, and the flavor of us subs. They measured this and that in the imperial system in RL, so you should accept it too. Are we simulating the US Silent Service or not?

Besides, if both instruments, available data and maps are measured the same way, it shouldn't be a problem.


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