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Narcosis 11-10-06 10:42 AM

The Far right in the UK cleared from accusing Islam "Evil and Wicked"
 
The jury heard extracts from a speech Griffin made on January 19, 2004, in which he described Islam as a "wicked, vicious faith" and said Muslims were turning Britain into a "multi-racial hell hole".




How right he is...



http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...551612,00.html

XabbaRus 11-10-06 11:07 AM

You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Captain Nemo 11-10-06 11:17 AM

Unfortunately the BNP are gaining considerable support. The area where I live is represented by a BNP councillor. I have never voted BNP but from what I see happening in my area I can understand why people voted for them. Perhaps if politicians had listened to Enoch Powell back in 1968 we wouldn't be in this situation now.

Nemo

Narcosis 11-10-06 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)

DAB 11-10-06 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis
Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you)

You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

HunterICX 11-10-06 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
You sound like you support them?

OK in a democracy parties like the BNP are allowed to exist, and though his views may not be inciteful I don't agree with them.

Thing is the BNP at the moment are picking out muslims, they'd be just as happy getting rid of jews, blacks, anyone who doesn't fit their idea of "British"

Let him say what he wants, he doesn't represent me and should they ever come to my door canvassing I'll exercise my democratic right to tell them to ******* off.

Then answer me this:

1: If a Turkish teenages is going to school with a pistol. and shoots a couple of schoolars including his girlfriend who broked up with him and has a new boyfriend. and then he doesnt get a hard punishment because in his religion its like that the Girlfriend desirvers to be killed!.

2: If some Maroc teen is threating the governement with plans to blow up the Governemt building and an assasination a politcian and makin private Jihad videos about how he is planning an suicide bombing. and he get away with and while the proof was solid! Ingredients to make a bomb, plans of the governement builings including an Airport plan.

3: 2 Immigrants from a muslim country pushes an granny out of her weelchair and hang up her little dog on a tree. suspects not found yet.

4: Killing a friend of one of my girlfriends friend because he got stabbed with a knife 12 times because he didnt gave the immigrants (African race) his mobile! and their parents said clearly ''He had the right to defend himself'' from what I say? for not giving his mobile that *******head had the right to stab him for it?

these actions of some immigrants we see growing everyday pisses me off, and if someone sais that some right politician needs to shut up for marking the world if we continue like this the country will turn up in a mayor multicultural f*ck up. No, he is right to tell that we are too soft against some behaviour of these immigrant that come in our country just to f*ck us in the ass and enjoying their protection of law that they cant be hurt if you do something stupid while in their own country they would get their hands chopped of for stealing no matter what they steal!

and no I dont say clean europa from muslims and other races. I,m not a racist. but I want to see harder actions against those who refuse to adapt and think that they can screw with us whenever they want! thats what I want to see, if some muslim is acting like a terrorist. dont even waste the money on trials and other politic crap. A hard kick under the ass in the dirrection of their own country is wel diserved if someone can think they can come over and make plans to blow up things or kill people because we are the Western infidels.

HunterICX

TteFAboB 11-10-06 12:56 PM

I could be entirely wrong, saying this from a distance, even though information on Britain is overwhelming, but as far as I've noticed the BN Party is simply following the populist line: say what they want to hear.

Since I don't know all these people & politicians, I could be comitting a great injustice here but from what I gather it seems that the BNP gets votes more because of the stupidity of the other parties than by their own merits. Nobody does anything, the BNP promises to do and looks like they are the only ones indeed capable of doing anything (however true that is), so they get the votes.

Feel free to insult me for saying this and correct me if I'm wrong, and this is the last but, but, I don't think the BNP upholds the values that made Britain the great country it was/is/could've been today, they've simply discovered before anybody else that the Brits are fed up with the current state of affairs and that if they can monopolize this speech they'll grow. This is great, fair enough, finally somebody representing the Brits in part, the problem is the rest of the luggage they'd bring with them to power.

Narcosis 11-10-06 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB


You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:

DAB 11-10-06 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB


You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:

Lets just say it gives me an advantage

Narcosis 11-10-06 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB
Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAB


You didn't answer XabbaRus question.

Do you support the BNP?

I will do.
Why is that a problem for you ? :smug:

Lets just say it gives me an advantage

An Advantage ?

What, that you need more time to come back with a more educated and sensible remark:rotfl:

XabbaRus 11-10-06 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)

Aren't you clever. You don't know anything about me as a person especially from what I ended my post with.

And to say it puts me below the BNP, well I find that one amusing. I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.

Narcosis 11-10-06 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis

Actually it is not a democratic right to tell some one to ******* Off.

That is a verbal assault which is a criminal offence in the UK.

So that remark really puts you below them.
(It also says alot about you as a person)

Aren't you clever. You don't know anything about me as a person especially from what I ended my post with.

And to say it puts me below the BNP, well I find that one amusing. I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.


My advice is stop reading the newspapers.
Go and read what the BNP say on their webpages.

I did, after hearing so much lies and hate from people, who accused them of Hate.

They say nothing about getting rid of every one, who is not born here in the UK. That is left wing hate activist propoganda, trying to keep in power. The same people who hood winked us all into the Iraq War and who put child perverts on the streets with out checking up on them

If you turn on the news, you will hear Labour are planning to get rid of 10,000s of people, and stop people coming in from the east.
It is Labour attacking the Muslims with the veil and acting like Nazis who also attacked religion. So don't get fooled by reading the one sided views and lies, in the UK papers.

Research yourself for the truth from the horses mouth and not from the preaches of hate.

STEED 11-10-06 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis
Research yourself for the truth from the horses mouth

The BNP is what comes out of a horses backside.

mog 11-10-06 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.

I'm sure you'll agree that there's no real chance of the BNP ever forming a government. The value of voting for this kind of fringe party is the effect it has on the policy of the major parties. If enough people vote BNP, either the Tories or Labour are bound to slightly ammend their policies in order to reclaim the lost vote. If people want tougher immigration law for example, then the BNP is probably a good way to vote, even if you don't agree with their rhetoric.

DAB 11-10-06 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mog
Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I guess you dno't believe that the BNP won't kick out the muslims, then work on the other minorities. I wonder what they would make of my wife being Russian, some pinko commie?

You see they would then end up rounding up those who disagree with them after they have dealt with the minorities.

I'm sure you'll agree that there's no real chance of the BNP ever forming a government. The value of voting for this kind of fringe party is the effect it has on the policy of the major parties. If enough people vote BNP, either the Tories or Labour are bound to slightly ammend their policies in order to reclaim the lost vote. If people want tougher immigration law for example, then the BNP is probably a good way to vote, even if you don't agree with their rhetoric.

Trust me, as STEED pointed out, no political party wants anything to do with the BNP. And whilst I wouldn't expect anyone outside the UK to realise what they are... Narcosis should know better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcosis
My advice is stop reading the newspapers.
Go and read what the BNP say on their webpages.

Websites are a properganda tool as well. I'd rather read what has been said elsewhere by the BNP. Like the following.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin, Nick: The Rune, issue 11
True Revisionists will not be foooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the 20th century

Nick Griffin in response to the report that David Irving, the infamous holocaust denier currently in prison in Austria, had acknowledged that 4,000,000 Jews may have died in the holucaust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin, Nick: Who are the Mindbenders?
a[cabal of Jews is] providing us with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexial, anti-British trash.

This was in a pamphlet written in the run up to the 1997 British General Election.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin, Nick (1998)
I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated & turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat ... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.

There is also an article called Dealing with Peak Oil Criticisms written by Nick Griffin in 2005. One of the subheadings is called "Its all a Zionist scam".


That is just a touch of the anti-semite trash put out by the BNP. Would you care for me to go into their views on homosexuality, the Irish, Hindu's, Sikhs or the else. The BNP even have their own Leibensraum!!! They have actually stated as policy that a BNP government would attempt to annex the Republic of Ireland!

Perhaps Narcosis would like to justify all of this!?


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