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TteFAboB 11-08-06 12:32 PM

Democrats win.
 
EDIT: Graphical linky disappeared. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/

Considering Bush is the least worst when it comes to spending, this is good news. Yes, there's alot of stuff that needed to be done, but having a "broken government" might be a good change. Yes, yes, yes, trade agreements will suffer and we don't know what some Dems might come up with, but after all these years of least-worst Bushing, I'm game for some immobility.

1. Don't you just love Mid-Term elections? We can send the message in the middle of the government instead of having to wait the entire 4 years.

2. A CNN poll weighted corruption (42%) above terrorism (40%) and the economy (39%) and the war in Iraq (37%) on the decision of the interviewed voters.

So even though Americans live under the constant threat of new terror attacks, not to mention the trouble in Iraq, in the USA the corrupt, the liar and the hypocrite does not receive any tolerance, even if that means handing over national security to the helpless suicidal Democrats. Two thumbs up on this one.

fredbass 11-08-06 12:40 PM

Well yes, the Democrats now have control of the House of Representatives, but I think Congress (the Senate) isn't settled quite yet. That will be the most crucial result.

Ducimus 11-08-06 01:11 PM

Im really happy about it. Ive NEVER voted democrate before a day in my life. But this election..i guess theres a first time for everything. My basis being NO PARTY should have control of the house, the senate, and the oval office at the same time. Check's and balances is what we need. We didnt need a rubber stamp, yes sir anything you say sir, do nothing congress. With the power not all being held by one party, legislature and such will acutally be properly debated and bounced around like it should be.

11-08-06 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Im really happy about it. Ive NEVER voted democrate before a day in my life. But this election..i guess theres a first time for everything. My basis being NO PARTY should have control of the house, the senate, and the oval office at the same time. Check's and balances is what we need. We didnt need a rubber stamp, yes sir anything you say sir, do nothing congress. With the power not all being held by one party, legislature and such will acutally be properly debated and bounced around like it should be.

Not to mention a more prolific use of the presidential veto power.

Ishmael 11-08-06 03:21 PM

According to Pelosi, here are some elements of the 100-hour plan.

1. Fully implement all recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Report.

2. Raise the minimum wage

3. Rollback tax cuts for the top 1% of wage earners ie the wealthy

4. Reform the Medicare prescription drug to allow the government to negotiate lower prices for seniors

5.Investigate corruption & contractor abuse in Iraq with subpoena powers

6. Ensure our troops have proper equipment such as good body armor, armored humvees etc.

7. Meet with the Baker Commission, the new SECDEF and the Joint Chiefs to determine & implement a real strategy for securing the peace in Iraq.

8. Finding a real way to balance the budget and end the hemmorage of govt revenues.

Ducimus 11-08-06 03:24 PM

You know ive read an article somewhere, i cant remember where, and i dont remember what exactly this manuver is called, but Bush has circumvented the law and veto'd stuff more then all the other presiden'ts combined. I wish i could find that article, it's kind of outragous if true.

11-08-06 03:34 PM

By my count GWB has only vetoed one bill since in office. That bill mandated the use of federal dollars for embrionic stem cell research. His veto never outlawed the research which continues to this day.

STEED 11-08-06 04:08 PM

Sounds like your presidential elections in 2008 are going to be interesting too follow. :yep:

Unlike ours. ;)

Ducimus 11-08-06 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
By my count GWB has only vetoed one bill since in office. That bill mandated the use of federal dollars for embrionic stem cell research. His veto never outlawed the research which continues to this day.



Ahhh, found it. It was on CNN of all places , go figure :roll:

Quote:

Dobbs: Why is the president ignoring our laws?
Bush, feds flout the Constitution by finding ways around laws


With upraised right hand and left hand on the Bible, each of our presidents, from George Washington to George W. Bush, has solemnly sworn to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States.

The American Bar Association claims President Bush has violated that oath by issuing hundreds of "signing statements" to disregard selected provisions of the laws that Congress passed and he signed.

A bipartisan, 11-member panel of the ABA found that President Bush is not only disregarding laws but using such signing statements far more than any president in history. In fact, Bush has used signing statements to raise constitutional objections to more than 800 provisions in more than 100 laws. All of the presidents combined before 2001 had issued only 600.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dob...y26/index.html

11-08-06 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
By my count GWB has only vetoed one bill since in office. That bill mandated the use of federal dollars for embrionic stem cell research. His veto never outlawed the research which continues to this day.



Ahhh, found it. It was on CNN of all places , go figure :roll:

Quote:

Dobbs: Why is the president ignoring our laws?
Bush, feds flout the Constitution by finding ways around laws


With upraised right hand and left hand on the Bible, each of our presidents, from George Washington to George W. Bush, has solemnly sworn to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States.

The American Bar Association claims President Bush has violated that oath by issuing hundreds of "signing statements" to disregard selected provisions of the laws that Congress passed and he signed.

A bipartisan, 11-member panel of the ABA found that President Bush is not only disregarding laws but using such signing statements far more than any president in history. In fact, Bush has used signing statements to raise constitutional objections to more than 800 provisions in more than 100 laws. All of the presidents combined before 2001 had issued only 600.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/dob...y26/index.html

here are other signing statements. Click the year at the top and see how 'your' president used the system to his advantage.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/signi...Submit=DISPLAY

Ducimus 11-08-06 04:57 PM

Clintion isnt "my" president. Neither is bush. Don't assume i love clinton because of my dislike of Bush Jr.

SUBMAN1 11-08-06 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
You know ive read an article somewhere, i cant remember where, and i dont remember what exactly this manuver is called, but Bush has circumvented the law and veto'd stuff more then all the other presiden'ts combined. I wish i could find that article, it's kind of outragous if true.

Bush has used his Veto power less than any other president - he used it once.

-S

11-08-06 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Clintion isnt "my" president. Neither is bush. Don't assume i love clinton because of my dislike of Bush Jr.

My 'your' wasn't meant for you, Ducimus, in particular. I meant it in the more universal sense, i.e. pick your president. My apologies if I offened.

The Noob 11-08-06 05:10 PM

From Worse to bad. :roll:

11-08-06 05:54 PM

Adults please.


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