Ok,thanks!


A bit oftopic, i always know when the wolf pack appears, even before BdU notifies me, because the game starts to get a little hooked, ha, ha Good hunting!

Concerning wolfpacks, I know the mod documentation talks about how to summon other uboats to form wolfpacks put Im somewhat confused how it works (which is not hard to do).

Does anyone here put play with wolfpacks regularly? If so, how do you like it?

I have tried this several times. I don't like this feature. Wolfpack comes only at night when visibility is poor (3-4 km). So it is very difficult to not be spotted before especially when destroyers have radars

I play mainly and only with wolf packs, only in 1942, this one appeared after about 12 hours of chase.
https://i.postimg.cc/crZQ6BZ2/sh3-20...2-54-36-81.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/5j8BxRc8/sh3-20...2-54-22-51.jpg
In this case, they sank one trader, damaged several, but it is possible that there were other sunken targets, because there was only one destroyer in my area.

Usually, if the option is selected from the selector "less reports" appears faster, i had a case in within 2-3 hours.


Alex is right, the attacks take place mostly at night, but I've had a case during the day
https://i.postimg.cc/R6XGBsNy/sh3-20...3-54-58-45.jpg

I've a lot of experience with them in other mods. Work great, won't play without them myself; interesting to see it work let alone the historical factor.

Did you call in that day attack or did it just happen ? (i.e., ai subs added to convoys that spawn when the convoy does. Usually day packs are these).

Yes, in this case, about 10-12 messages from me, and about 5-6 answers from BDU!
The only strange thing, i not only saw the final message, but maybe in a hurry, i missed it:timeout:


As i wrote above, i know almost unmistakably when an attack is formed, ha, ha, the game starts boxing slightly in seconds, but it may be due to my weaker computer!


In fact John, i read your question more carefully, i spotted the convoy early in the morning, around 3-4 after midnight, there was an exchange of messages, yes, the attack started between 7 and 8 in the morning

Well done ! Was it actually daytime "in the game" ? I.e., until the sun breaks the horizon and the night lights go off in the sub, the game still considers it night (and vice versa) even though it may be light outside.

I have a few more photos from this attack, but the sun is not visible, at least in the photos, and i don't remember, that was a year ago.
https://i.postimg.cc/DJ25Rky1/sh3-20...3-31-55-77.jpg


I read that H.sie also foresees rare morning attacks, but what he meant, only he could say.

Probably still technically a "night" attack then, via the game mechanics. Daytime pack attacks were not the norm vs. night ones so no big deal.

Right!:yep:

From looking at this... is possible for early morning/night wolfpack attacks... if these are successfully carried out. Know that there is the option to forgo having to do all the transmitting messages, a wolfpack lite version, if you will... :hmmm: :yep:

which, technically, isn't full daytime, yet... falls into that grey area that is also considered but not fully night time, either... This could also, hold true for sunset... but just the opposite, not yet out of day time, yet not technically full on night. That'd be 2 iffy areas, that are neither 1 nor the other... basically, grey areas in regards to being neither full on day or night.

is possible, that was what h.sie was referring to... the possibility of early morning attacks or early night, perhaps... :hmmm:

There is also, the known issue of pushing high TC, to get from A to B then back to A... that will invariably, result in the day/night clock in built, to get... out of sorts... (so while visibly, to the Kaleun) it appears to be either day... or night, as the case may be... it is fact, quite the opposite to the AI. :yep: :shucks:

As I recall, there is a method to tone down this occurring when TC is used... but, don't right off, recall the particulars to achieve this.

I had notes on that, but.. sadly lost those notes (along with all material on notes/mods for all things SH3/4 & 5, when My ext. HD died. :wah:) I still retain most of that, in My head, but what I do, only amounts to maybe... 1/10 of what I had on that HD... *sigh*

At any rate... hope this info I've parted here, helps... :yep:

Thanks,Mad Mardigan,good info!:Kaleun_Salute:
I'm sorry this happened to your archive, it's really a loss!

Yes, the H.sie option to reduce the time required for the pack to assemble should be used. It can take awhile even with it; without it is brutal. :)
It's impressive when a pack attacks, on both sides.

Yes, i chose now "Wolfpk less contact reports" in the Stieblers option selector , and i will see what happens!


In any case, this will only work at night