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padi 10-22-15 10:44 AM

Real ASW Mod
 
And there it is.
No bugs were found so the RC version could be released as the version 4.0.
The things suggested by Anvar are optimisations within the files that make it easier while editing, I will implement these in the following release.
It´s a big day for me, nearly six years after the release of my first mod version on October 22nd, 2015.
Since then I learned so much about this game, got way better at modding and now I´m very proud of the product, I hope you guys will enjoy it while I will expand it in the future.

Here you could find it:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/11wf4...od_4.0.7z/file

Have fun:Kaleun_Salute:

Hitman 10-22-15 12:22 PM

Another realism mod, how cool :rock:

Good job :sunny:

padi 10-22-15 12:27 PM

Thanks

Fahnenbohn 10-22-15 01:45 PM

And did you change / do you intend to change also the hedgehog's DC' settings ?

And is this mod only compatible with CCOM and WAC 5.0 ?

padi 10-22-15 01:57 PM

Real ASW Mod
 
I haven't changed them. I want to do it step by step. First the DCs, then the Hedgehog and then the Airborne-DCs.

What could be changed with the Hedgehogs other that the 3D-Model? Is something in the Simulation wrong or do you only want to have better 3D-Models of the Projectiles and the Thrower?

At this time it is only compatible with Ccom 11. In the future I want to adapt it for WAC 5.0...

jaxa 10-22-15 02:05 PM

Very interesting idea, any realism mod is appreciated, but what about version compatible with GWX?

padi 10-22-15 02:16 PM

I'm focusing for the beginning primarily on the mod which I'm using and that is Ccom. At this time more versions for different Supermods are not possible for me to create due to lack of time. When the first version is fully complete I only have to change the .eqp-files to make it compatible to other mods. That saves time and nerves which is very important for me because this is a one man job...
But if you want I could send you the files and explain you what to change so you can make it compatible.

Does anyone have information about the french and polish DCs (amount of explosives, fallspeed, DCTs, numbers on specific in game used ships, which DCT could use which DC) because I can´t create them due lack of information.

K-61 10-22-15 07:11 PM

What a fantastic idea! I am eager to give it a try, but first I have to find out what CCOM is. I've been away from the game for years but just got back into it recently. Don't feel as if you need to reply to this; I will start reading and found out CCOM.

I've always felt the escorts were lavishly oversupplied with ordnance to tip over the sides and stern. In one particularly horrendous battle I counted about 200 DC explosions. Most of that came from one escort.

I am going to guess that the escorts will not change their behavior as they run low on DC's but will simply use them until they are gone. I've read other players saying they had escorts making runs on them and not dropping anything, so they assumed they were out of DC's. I'm sure it would not be possible to actually mod the behavior of the escorts, as that is likely hardcoded in the game.

In any event. I applaud your efforts and the sharing of your work.

padi 10-23-15 12:08 AM

You can download Ccom here: http://www.mediafire.com/rowi58#96uy4naf31aey

Just download all the parts, use 7z to decompress them and you have the necessary files to enable via JSGME.

jaxa 10-23-15 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi (Post 2352908)
Does anyone have information about the french and polish DCs (amount of explosives, fallspeed, DCTs, numbers on specific in game used ships, which DCT could use which DC) because I can´t create them due lack of information.


Here you are some infos about DC used by Polish Navy before and in 1939 during German invasion and defending of Polish coast:
http://www.weu1918-1939.pl/bomglebinowa-bh200/
http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcje,...z-bh-200,13177

It was French origin weapon of Polish destroyers ORP "Burza" and ORP "Wicher" (24 onboard) and probably ORP "Błyskawica" and ORP "Grom", but somewhere I've read that was another type DC for these destroyers - BH 135
(40 onboard).

padi 10-23-15 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa (Post 2352987)
Here you are some infos about DC used by Polish Navy before and in 1939 during German invasion and defending of Polish coast:
http://www.weu1918-1939.pl/bomglebinowa-bh200/
http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcje,...z-bh-200,13177

It was French origin weapon of Polish destroyers ORP "Burza" and ORP "Wicher" (24 onboard) and probably ORP "Błyskawica" and ORP "Grom", but somewhere I've read that was another type DC for these destroyers - BH 135
(40 onboard).


You are great! Thanks!

I can't find the BH 135 on the sites and so I'm for now only implementing the BH 200 and parallel searching in the web for infos about the BH 135.

jaxa 10-23-15 04:38 AM

You're welcome :)

padi 10-24-15 04:40 AM

Real ASW Mod
 
According to some players experience you have to start a new career after installing this mod.
I don't know why...

The polish addon is coming today or tomorrow...;)

jaxa 10-24-15 07:19 AM

I'll be waiting for GWX version :up:

padi 10-24-15 11:01 AM

Do you also have informations about which DCT´s the polish used?

jaxa 10-24-15 01:57 PM

ORP Błyskawica and ORP Grom were previously (just after building) equipped with two DC racks and 20 BH 200 DCs onboard, some authors say about two additional Thornycroft DC throwers (don't know specific model), but probably that is a mistake.
For sure ORP Błyskawica (ORP Grom was lost in 1940 during German invasion of Norway) was equipped with four Thornycraft Mk.IV DCTs after 20 June 1941.

If we are talking about ORP Burza and ORP Wicher (similar to French Bourrasque destroyers) that their antisubmarine weapons looked like this:
1. from building to 1939 they were equipped with two DC racks for 20 BH 200 DCs supply and one Thornycroft DCT for 10 BH 200 supply, but some authors say that DCT was removed in 1934 (ORP Wicher was sunk by German planes in September 1939).
2. from 1940 to 1942 two DC racks for 20 DCs supply and two Thornycroft DCTs for 20 DCs supply.
3. from 1942 to 1945 two DC racks, four Thornycroft Mk.IV DCTs and one Hedgehog.

I hope it helps you with your work mate :up:

padi 10-24-15 03:58 PM

That's more than I ever expected!
Thank you very much!

padi 10-26-15 11:21 AM

Some further questions to your superb explanations:

Do you also know how many DCs the two Thornycrofts of the Grom had?
20 like the Wicher? I model the early DCTs which you aren´t sure if they were on board with two Thornycroft Mk.I with 10 DCs each.

Do you know where the single launcher on the Wicher was positioned and if it was a K- or Y-Gun.

Are you sure, that the have used the Thornycroft Mk.IV until the end of the war and haven´t upgraded to the Thornycroft Mk.V?

Thanks in Advance mate:salute::yeah:

jaxa 10-26-15 04:04 PM

Padi, small historical research for you:

1. There is only one source of information (one author and one book) about Thornycroft DCTs on board of Grom class just after building and shortly after WWII beginning, so it may not be true. Even then it's true amount of available DCs for DCTs shouldn't exceed 10 (max 20) DCs, similar to Wicher class (20 BH 200 for racks and 10 for throwers). IMHO better to legitimate that there were not any DCTs onboard of Grom class, up to ORP Błyskawica overhaul started on 20.06.1941.
2. The single DCTs on Wicher class were most likely removed from these destroyers in 1934. After that in 1940 only ORP Burza was equipped with two Thornycroft DCTs and in 1942 with four Mk.IV DCTs.
3. I've found nowhere info about Thornycroft Mk.V throwers onboard of ORP Błyskawica and ORP Burza, so only Mk.IV version is verified.

Don't forget important info:
ORP Wicher and ORP Burza were both Wicher class, built in France. ORP Burza survived WWII, but ORP Wicher was sunk by German planes on 3 September 1939.
ORP Grom and ORP Błyskawica were both Grom class, built in UK. ORP Błyskawica survived WWII (she's still on the waves as museum-ship in Gdynia, Poland), but ORP Grom was sunk by German planes on 4 May 1940.

You gave me very interesting job with this, I wanna buy fresh released monography of all Polish destroyers using during WWII for making comprehensive research for you :)

padi 10-26-15 04:23 PM

Thanks!
Nice that you have fun doing this😄
I have fun implementing your data😉


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