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JMV 08-31-2009 02:08 AM

So unexpected, and at the same time not so... But life is like this, the realm of "impermanence". :wah::wah:

I DO concur with everypoints mentionned in the posts abovel, and wish to thank Captain Lehmann and the whole of the GWX team ( and why not all the modders of this community who were, and are still working on the work laid by the GWX team ) and for the countless hours of happiness untill the early hours of the nights...

So yes, R.I.P. GWX, but that's not the end of it, and the "ripples" will be felt for still quite a while... ( And not everybody will be able to buy a new rig for SH5...I won't )

See it that way Cpt Lehmann, sometimes in life it's time to take a good break. Very few people here can ever imagine ( I include myself ) the level of involvement it must have asked from you and your team in your private lives and else...

So yes, take a chance, look a the bright side of it. Everyone needs a break. Rest from it for as long as needed...go on vacation if you can and when the time ( undoubtedly ) comes, you can always say :salute: I'm here, (because I doubt that you could ever stay UN-interrested with SH5 for very long ) Hehehe... ;)
So, thank you again, Captain Lehmann, good rest, and we'll see you in a while, I have no doubt.

From everybody here... :salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::s alute::salute:

JU_88 08-31-2009 04:09 AM

What to say, indeed it a real shame it had to end this way - but as the Kpt said there was no real aternative.
We faced an inevitable prospect of it either being - too late or too rushed. Nobody wanted either.
In many ways the bottom line was that GWX 4 was (in hidsight) a bridge too far.
The amount of work needed to re-write the campaign files and the reworking of imported units was a MONSTROUS task.

Another point is that nobody, (including ourselves) wants GWX4 to be competing with SHV in any way.... Im not saying it would or could just that - it is a potential confilct of intreast that would do no favors or justice to anybody.

We're deeply sorry to let down those who were looking forward to the mod
Still, I feel honoured to have been apart of GWX, and to have worked with such a cool bunch of people.

Thanks to all of you here for your understanding and your kind words, It really means a hell of a lot to the team.

I have no doubt that Ubi devs will do a cracking job with SHV, Its got me drooling already :DL
And when it ships in 2010, we can be sure that a tidal wave of talanted modding energy will be surging though these forums. (new and old alike)
There is still much to look forward to gentlemen. :up:

h.sie 08-31-2009 04:22 AM

thank you for everything. SH3/GWX3 for me has to much potential and gameplay fun / immersion that I don't feel very unhappy about that decision.

best wishes for the future for you all!


JScones 08-31-2009 04:32 AM

Even the staunchest GWX critic would be hard-pressed to deny the overwhelming impact that GWX has had on SH3. It would be more than fair to say that GWX set the benchmark for SH3 modding. It would be even fair to say that GWX set the benchmark for the modding of other games, as it is not that uncommon to read references to GWX ("I wish we had a GWX-type mod for <insert game here>") in other forums.

Certainly I have been a long time user of GWX and the earlier TGW (when it was just Lehmann and Marhkimov) and can say without doubt that SH3 would not be on my HDD today were it not for GWX.

Being on the GWX team introduced me to some great guys like BBW, Rubini and Ref. There was a time when I enjoyed opening my inbox to see it full with email from these guys.

Lehmann, you can "retire" with dignity and the knowledge that you have made many thousands of SH3 players happy. We did not always see eye-to-eye (heck, you frustrated the excrement out of me), but no-one can argue with the results. :up:

And I'm sure not many people here are fully aware of the personal sacrifices that you made during your reign as GWX project manager, just to make them happy.

To you and the team--both past and present--thanks. :salute:

Tomi_099 08-31-2009 05:16 AM

End for The Grey Wolves Mod Team
Journey's End for The Grey Wolves Mod Team

That is a mistake! :timeout:

The General 08-31-2009 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Tomi_099 (Post 1162482)
Journey's End for The Grey Wolves Mod Team

That is a mistake! :timeout:

Uh-oh, why do you think it's a mistake Tomi?! Somebody get a translator over here here so Tomi can express himself in his native tongue :yep:

Carotio 08-31-2009 06:05 AM

Hard to compete with a big coorporation like Ubisoft...:-?


Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1162302)
maybe some of the work done, if any completed, can be released and added to Lurker's OM mod, wouldn't be a total loss then ....

I agree. Whatever single bits could be extracted to be part of an OM install would still serve you credits. :yep:

LiveGoat 08-31-2009 06:26 AM

Wow... just... wow. :cry:

To KL and the GWX team: :salute: Thank you for the amazing mod!

Akula4745 08-31-2009 07:12 AM

Thanks to all the Grey Wolves for their contributions and hard work... it is appreciated more than you will ever know. My very best wishes for your continued success in whatever you do.

Uber Gruber 08-31-2009 07:27 AM

First we had RuB, then NYGM, then GWX. The evolution of mods for SH3 has been a great asset for this community and it is always a shame to see any mod team disbanded for one reason or another.

But in light of the SH5 announcement it is the only way to go. SH5 will have a new game engine so there wouldn't be much code that could be ported over anyway.

However, all the research that went into making these great mods is not lost, it will encourage future modders to pick up where the old ones left and on a new engine.

Progress never dies.

Checkmate King 2 08-31-2009 08:16 AM

Thanks for everything, Grey Wolves :salute:

If it hadn't been for you, I would have quit playing SH3 a long time ago.

Too bad Ubisoft doesn't have the Grey Wolves' staff on the design team for SH5. Could you imagine how awesome SH5 would be, out of the box, in its vanilla form????

Long Live the Grey Wolves :arrgh!:

mookiemookie 08-31-2009 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by The General (Post 1162484)
Uh-oh, why do you think it's a mistake Tomi?! Somebody get a translator over here here so Tomi can express himself in his native tongue :yep:

I think what Tomi is trying to say is that he personally isn't retiring from modding.

Tomi_099 08-31-2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1162572)
I think what Tomi is trying to say is that he personally isn't retiring from modding.


Dear Readers and GWX Friends!
So I'm new in this store, but she believes that a
Cap. Lehmann ,
Has won so many battles now going into retirement.

So I do not think so! ,
or a private person or a Jim,

no, these people are born for something, and often they did not know themselves.

You know sometimes it does not mean that you have become cult figures.
I am impressed how much has GWX friends when I see it.

I am a person who never gives up and I do not want repetition of what
Cap. Lehmann said

I am confident, maybe it means no more GWX4 but it is definitely a GWX5 or GWX6

It is important that it is with us, and perhaps in the bad time
Cep. Lehmann and the GWX supported.
Because he does it all for you and get no money for it.

To my commitment it will not fail, I am ready for any mission!

Thanks !!

Liebe Leser und GWX Freunde!!
Also ich bin neu im diesen Laden, aber glaubt ihr, das ein Cap .Lehmann
Der so viele Schlachten gewonnen hat jetzt in die Rente geht.

Also ich glaube nicht!! ,
oder ein Privater , oder ein Jim ,

nein diese Menschen sind für so etwas geboren und oft wissen es sie selber nicht.
Sie wissen es manchmal nicht, dass Sie Kultfiguren geworden sind.
Ich bin beeindruckt wie viel GWX Freunde hat, wenn ich das sehe.

Ich bin ein Mensch der nie aufgibt und ich möchte nicht das widerholen was der
Cap. Lehmann schrieb

Ich bin zuversichtlich, vielleicht heißte es nicht mehr, GWX4 aber es wird bestimmt ein GWX5
Oder 6 geben.
Wichtig ist das ihr zu uns hält, und vielleicht in schlechten den Cep. Lehmann unterstützt.
Denn er macht das alles für euch und bekommt kein Geld dafür.

An meinen Engagement soll es nicht fehlen, ich bin für jede Mission bereit !!


Cobra_mkII 08-31-2009 11:11 AM

Guiltily sad
Well as I now run Vista 64bit I cannot run SH3. Every week I would lurk here waiting for the GWX4 announcement. built with guilty feelings.

When I played a GWX modded SH3 (Till Dec 08) I was in awe....of how much time and effort must have gone into the mod that I could never appreciate.

I can only give the GWX team, past and present, my heartfelt thanks for the hours of fun you have all given me, whilst never really knowing just how much time, effort and family life you all gave up, reading the post has helped me just a little to appreciate how much that must have really been.

respect guys :salute:

Johann Vilthomsen 08-31-2009 11:41 AM

Thanks for all GWX Team, especially for GWX 3 Gold and your hard work. :salute:


mr chris 08-31-2009 11:50 AM

May everyone be upstanding for a toast to the GWX Team.:()1:

I count myself very lucky to have been apart of the GWX team.
Through this i have met and become friends with some great people.
I feel honoured to have been in the vicinity of such great people at work.

Rockin Robbins 08-31-2009 12:11 PM

Oh the drama, the pathos, the tragedy! Somehow I've read all this before and guess who's back writing yet another farewell.....

I suggest everyone leave the light on because Kapt Lehmann has nine lives and has only used two or three. Somehow, when we least expect it I have this feeling there will be a large, spectacular release for SH5!

I learned from Ducimus that these farewells are great theater, but the people issuing the farewell are much more addicted than we are. Emergencies of life may temporarily detain them but they will be back with a vengeance!

So Kapt, I'll shoot you a salute but you'll excuse me if I hold the goodbye. Best wishes, sir!:salute:

e7pus 08-31-2009 12:14 PM

Thanks, for job guys:arrgh!:...:salute:

SilentAngel 08-31-2009 12:18 PM

This really sucks:(

I hope to see some off your guys work still released to the public though, the stuff that was almost done or close to it.

Just that would make me very happy already.

And what else can I say, you guys did this for free for the community, while having a real job on the side.
So its a very valid reason, good luck to you'all in the future:)

bigboywooly 08-31-2009 12:21 PM

Well what can I say thats not already been said
Chance to log on here or anywhere has been limited for the last few months due to RL\family reasons and getting a chance today I log on to see this

I do feel a lil guilty having been away from the team for far too long and not being able to contribute to GWX4 for months

Salute to the GWX team for making a difficult decision which with all the work I had seen before departure couldnt have been easy and I feel for those who have toiled non stop
Lets hope something can be done with all the new work either in GWX3 or released for use in SH4

Has been an honour working with the team past and present


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