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lorka42 03-22-10 09:23 AM

The Complete Idiots Guide to Goblin Editor(large image warning)
 
By request.

First, open goblin editor, located in the /ubisoft/silent hunter 5 directory, Then you open options thusly,
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...43/options.jpg


then you go into options and set the two directories wherever you have sh5 installed to, you can see in my case it is, C:/ubisoft/silen thunter 5 yours may differ.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/optopns2.jpg

Then you wont get the controllers error or the .dll error anymore.
There are a couple different ways to use this editor, this is the way I use it.

After setting up goblin editor, you must realize this is not S3D, you can't just open any old file and edit it. there is generally a .gr2 file that you must open first, so, in this exercise, we will be modding the VIIC/41 sub, you first goto file, then open, then you browse to the submarine folder, thusly.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a.../submarine.jpg

then into the /NSS_Uboat7c41 folder, there you will see a crapton of files, most of which I dont mess with. the one we want to open is the NSS_Uboat7c41.gr2 then we wait for it to load up, it may take a few seconds.
Here we see the bonny lass on the right, the project tree(more on that later) in the middle, and the GDS scene tree on the left.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...43/VIIc-41.jpg

Now, you MERGE(file, merge) the .sim file(this has most of the stats for the sub, i.e. speed, torp load out, ranges, ballast info, ect.) and the .zon file if you wish to mod the damage.(I haven't messed about with that yet.)
ends up looking like this

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/mergesim.jpg

If you notice the highlighted piece, that thar is where you mod the sub, just double click on it and a window will pop up.

You will want to edit the existing behaviors.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...ka43/behav.jpg

Mostly what you will be concerned about is the wpn_torpedosys and unit_submarine

This complete idiots guide has come to an end now.
really.
stop looking down here.
DUDE!
:haha::haha::haha:

lorka42 03-22-10 09:23 AM

Reserved by me for updates, go away!

sergei 03-22-10 09:28 AM

Good stuff lorka42 :up:

Chromius 03-22-10 05:12 PM

OK, now what we need is a genealogy tree for the files/types/parents ect.. some type of basic explanation would be a great start. Is there anything more detailed on previous SH4 anywhere, the tutorials on the silent editor site are not really covering what I am looking for. In particular gauges and intrumentation and any hidden unfinished technical items?

Have they indicated as to whether or not some documentation might be released? It would be great for them to tell us what hidden features or unfinished things they did not implement or the capabilities that may have been implemented. sheesh

MP 03-22-10 06:00 PM

Youtube
 
Thanks again, You have got me started. Let us know if you make any youtube modding videos...

Demonizer 03-22-10 06:05 PM

You can even open up old sh3 and sh4 objects like subs etc.. Maybe some porting can be possible?

oscar19681 03-22-10 06:17 PM

What do i do to fix the VIIB conning tower? I mean i cant stand seeing the VIIB with a VIIC conning tower!

lorka42 03-23-10 12:52 PM

Oscar, I believe that would have to be done with some 3D editing software,I'm way too old to begin learning stuff like that tho lol.

Chromium, I would talk to the guy that's done the instrumentation port from sh4 to sh5. Here is the post.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163208

Dulcimus also made some instrumentation mods, but I believe hes gone Awol on sh5.

P.S. Thanks for the sticky, it's my first. :woot:

mangaroca 03-23-10 02:54 PM

I love the models... I am not the expert but they make a great impression. Anybody managed to export them into 3d studio max? I have an old GR2 to OBJ exporter I used to export EVE Online models but it crashes while trying to export the models...

Boats 03-24-10 01:08 PM

LOL
 
I got the "OMG Noob message":D when I tried to open the sim file twice.

Madox58 03-25-10 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangaroca (Post 1330446)
I love the models... I am not the expert but they make a great impression. Anybody managed to export them into 3d studio max? I have an old GR2 to OBJ exporter I used to export EVE Online models but it crashes while trying to export the models...

The EVE exporters only export the first mesh in the SH5 GR2 files.
They we not made to look at all the Meshes.

There's only one Viewer/Exporter that does that I know of.
And it's not ready yet.
:03:

Rolf Eschke 03-29-10 08:28 AM

Thanks,now I can try to modify Files !

ddrgn 04-09-10 06:37 PM

Does anyone know or care to comment on why all the drop down menu items in the Goblin Editor are disabled/greyed out?

Some files can be edited via S3D but the new files which start with "SH5" e.g "SH5ShipWakes"cannot be imported in S3D and the most important drop down menu choices to adjust settings is greyed out in the Goblin Editor.

My guess is this is on purpose as it would certainly give us almost unending control. I have ran into this brickwall editing a few files which could be modding gold.

lorka42 04-09-10 09:02 PM

If you double click on the window it becomes larger, and the drop down menus appear normal.

ddrgn 04-10-10 12:21 AM

Still greyed out for me...

You can change them?

Scratch that, can change the drop down menus option but cannot save it. Any thoughts?

Can you open the OBS SCOPE gr2 and merge the .sim? I get a memory error than crash of program.

gr2 is in submarine/common/parts

You can load the GR2 and see that the default is for the scope to rise. Problem for me is the Goblin crashes when I merge the .sim.

Would love to set its default to stay and the start of the game


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