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Schroeder 06-08-11 02:28 PM

The current version is 4.10m, as for mods try HSFX or the Ultra Pack.

Raptor1 06-08-11 02:39 PM

In fact, the latest version is 4.101m, and the update order is 4.08m -> 4.09m -> 4.10m -> 4.101m. I don't have links for all of them at the moment, but they shouldn't be hard to find.

EDIT: Well, actually, M4T has all of them here, though you do need to register. There's a megapatch that supposedly updates the stock version to the latest one, but I'm not sure how well that works.

reignofdeath 06-08-11 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1679976)
The current version is 4.10m, as for mods try HSFX or the Ultra Pack.

where would I find those mods?

Raptor1 06-08-11 06:05 PM

You'll have to search for them, since linking IL-2 mods on Subsim is not allowed (Though discussing them is).

*cough* look for 242Sqn and IL2WAR, respectively *cough*

Kpt. Schaker 06-08-11 07:09 PM

I recommend the HOTAS Thrustmaster Joystick:yep:. Reading the manual several times, customizing down the pitch, roll, yaw to less sensitive settings. Try this setting on the yaw 0,8,19,29,39,51,62,75,86,100. Join the Mission 4 Today forums. Also fighter planes are more sensitive and more responsive. The Bombers like the Heinkel 111 are more easier to manuever. Alot of reading:zzz:, customizing of controls, & practice, practice, practice. Enjoy I love this sim also:up:! Alot pilot trainers recommend this Sim.

reignofdeath 06-08-11 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Nicaraguan (Post 1680134)
I recommend the HOTAS Thrustmaster Joystick:yep:. Reading the manual several times, customizing down the pitch, roll, yaw to less sensitive settings. Try this setting on the yaw 0,8,19,29,39,51,62,75,86,100. Join the Mission 4 Today forums. Also fighter planes are more sensitive and more responsive. The Bombers like the Heinkel 111 are more easier to manuever. Alot of reading:zzz:, customizing of controls, & practice, practice, practice. Enjoy I love this sim also:up:! Alot pilot trainers recommend this Sim.

I need to figure out how to deal with this stupid bouncing. What I mean by that is I am flying a Hurricane in my career right now and have its a PITA to hit a target because the plane wants to bounce around when I make adjustments to get into firing position. It sucks, it takes me litterally 15 minutes to shoot down one bomber. Plus Im not sure if the hurricanes are just incredibly weak or the betty bombers incredibly strong, but I peppered one from a perfect six o' clock postion for probably a good full 20 seconds and STILL didnt shoot it down. its quite dis-heartening to have flown 3 or 4 missions already and only got one kill :(:down:

EDIT: Now that I Read it I think maybe that bounce Im having is attributed to the joystick settings like Kpt. Nicaraguan suggested I edit??

EDIT 2: I also noticed my aileron trim doesnt work,, or is it possibly just with the hurricanes?? Like they dont have that trim or something?? Same goes for my open cockpit command and a few other things.

Schwieger 06-08-11 08:33 PM

What is your convergence?

reignofdeath 06-08-11 08:50 PM

what it was set too. 500 m or 50 im not sure. But what Im having problems with is the plane itself bouncing all around, I adjust up a bit and unless I keep that exact pressure on the stick, (even after holding it there for a bit) I lose my position and bounce back down right to where I was set at before. Its really annoying.

Schroeder 06-09-11 12:28 PM

That's normal. The plane always wants to get into a certain pitch depending on weight, speed and control surface input. If you change your elevator input the plane will change it's pitch, if you release the input the plane will go back to it's "natural" flight attitude. That is what the trim is for.;)

reignofdeath 06-09-11 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1680572)
That's normal. The plane always wants to get into a certain pitch depending on weight, speed and control surface input. If you change your elevator input the plane will change it's pitch, if you release the input the plane will go back to it's "natural" flight attitude. That is what the trim is for.;)

So its that how real pilots do it?? Get into a turn with a plan line up the sites and then set the trim?? Or is there a way to get into that turn hold my elevators in a certain position and then set that to be the trim position (Like an auto button?)

CCIP 06-09-11 07:45 PM

Not really - you just need to trim your plane for level flight. In turns, use the stick - you need the hands-on control for maneuvers. Just set it so that when you let go of the stick, it doesn't pull up or down violently.

reignofdeath 06-10-11 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1680825)
Not really - you just need to trim your plane for level flight. In turns, use the stick - you need the hands-on control for maneuvers. Just set it so that when you let go of the stick, it doesn't pull up or down violently.

And do I do this with trim??

CCIP 06-10-11 09:57 AM

Do you have keys/joystick programmed for it? I believe by default it's Ctrl+arrow keys

HunterICX 06-10-11 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1681091)
Do you have keys/joystick programmed for it? I believe by default it's Ctrl+arrow keys

Yes

CTRL + Left and Right Arrow are the Aileron trims
CTRL + Up and Down are the Elevator Trims
CTRL + Z and X are the Rudder trims (iirc)

HunterICX

Schroeder 06-10-11 12:27 PM

It should be noted that not every aircraft has all trim options. American fighters, for example, can usually trim every control surface, German fighters can only trim the elevator and some soviet planes like the I-16 and I-153 have no trim at all.


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