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Kratos 07-19-07 06:11 PM

:up: nice work m8 ...pity about the stuff you lost :cry:

Chock 07-19-07 10:59 PM

What are the realism settings on for that video? it doesn't seem very believable that a bf-110 could turn with a single engined fighter, and it seemed to have a better roll rate that the 190, which it plainly didn't have in real life. Also looked like external views were being used in combat, were they?

:D Chock

Dowly 07-19-07 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chock
What are the realism settings on for that video? it doesn't seem very believable that a bf-110 could turn with a single engined fighter, and it seemed to have a better roll rate that the 190, which it plainly didn't have in real life. Also looked like external views were being used in combat, were they?

:D Chock

Realism settings doesnt change the flight model on IL2, expect for the fact that with Stalling turned on, it's harder to recover from one.

@Kratos

That footage was from 0 to ~50min of the game, not too many fights were left out.

HunterICX 07-20-07 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chock
What are the realism settings on for that video? it doesn't seem very believable that a bf-110 could turn with a single engined fighter, and it seemed to have a better roll rate that the 190, which it plainly didn't have in real life. Also looked like external views were being used in combat, were they?

:D Chock

When I host the IL2 dificulty settings are friendly ;) (but none affect the IL2 flight model and still you can have black and stalls but its easier to recover from them) as we have some guys that play that still need to discover the limits of the plane itself and also when we just dogfight we just are having some fun (unlimitted ammo).
I mostly keep External views on as some like dowly likes to record the whole thing and for people that like to make some screenshots.

as about the FW190 vs the BF110
well, flying the FW190 seems to be a advantage versus the BF110
but instead the FW190 is a bit of a piggy in turning radius...its too wide and too long as you Bank right hard you will roll over and end up in a stall
as the FW190 design was more of a Bomber killer then a dogfighter (like the BF109) I should have picked the 109 instead of the 190 versus Dowly hehehehe

but when I launch Co-op missions I mostly crank up the dificulty to a higher level then in just fun Dogfights.

you should join us someday Chock :up: it is great fun.
you know the hour 22:00GMT +1 and mostly I post a Scramble in the Online play topic.:up:

HunterICX

Chock 07-20-07 08:47 AM

Yup, I was thinking about joining in, but if there are easy settings and external views it would put me off, which is, as you can imagine, why I was asking.

:D Chock

Dowly 07-20-07 09:01 AM

@Hunter: No need to keep the externals on for me. When watching the recorded tracks, I can use the external cam even if it was turned off during the game. :up:

HunterICX 07-20-07 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chock
Yup, I was thinking about joining in, but if there are easy settings and external views it would put me off, which is, as you can imagine, why I was asking.

:D Chock


:hmm:tell me what to turn on, and when you're up
it will be done.
dont expect any mercy from me and dowly :arrgh!:

Dowly 07-20-07 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock
Yup, I was thinking about joining in, but if there are easy settings and external views it would put me off, which is, as you can imagine, why I was asking.

:D Chock

:hmm:tell me what to turn on, and when you're up
it will be done.
dont expect any mercy from me and dowly :arrgh!:

Uh oh... I think we'll be asking for mercy... :p

HunterICX 07-20-07 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
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Originally Posted by HunterICX
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock
Yup, I was thinking about joining in, but if there are easy settings and external views it would put me off, which is, as you can imagine, why I was asking.

:D Chock

:hmm:tell me what to turn on, and when you're up
it will be done.
dont expect any mercy from me and dowly :arrgh!:

Uh oh... I think we'll be asking for mercy... :p

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! :lol:

Skybird 07-20-07 04:20 PM

I'll throw in these two commercials. I do not mean to advertise, I have no connection with Aerosoft, but the movies are really nice. They demonstrate the Vienna and Frankfurt airport sceneries for MSFS.

http://www.aerosoft2.de/videos/Frankfurt-w.wmv

http://www.aerosoft2.de/videos/Vienna-w.wmv

I'm about to update them for my FS9, but I know both airports from FS8 addons. Approach at night is an experience.

Dowly 07-21-07 12:18 PM

Unbelievable formation flying by the Fighting Woodpeckers :o:o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vPd_q5-ApE

More aerobatics by theFW
http://www.youtube.com/profile_video_blog?user=fwfox

Chock 07-21-07 12:58 PM

That certainly looks very cool, nicely done, but there were some things that gave it away as using the simple flight model, and once or twice some wings and tails hit the ground, which appeared to be carefully edited out by cutting to other sequences.

Still, it looked cool, even if wake turbulence would have made it impossible in real life, and it is certainly one of the best vids I've seen of simulator aerobatics.

:D Chock

XabbaRus 07-21-07 01:20 PM

When we fly online could we have realistic stalls etc on.

Dowly 07-21-07 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
When we fly online could we have realistic stalls etc on.

Yes, I'd like to have the stalling on too.

@Chock, dont know about that. It says on one comment from the author that "At our forum there are many tracks of alive performances where we fly on fullreal. There are all these elements of pilotage and more... All our rollers are made on fullreal settings."

Dowly 07-22-07 08:54 AM

And also, I'd like to see us flying with locked cockpits, icons off, both map & the ones that shows you the range, type etc. of the plane.

Sneaking up on the enemy was the main thing on dogfights. ;)


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