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VonDos 09-14-19 11:20 AM

Modern Hospital Ship (Wilhelm Gustloff)
 
Hi everyone!
I'm glad to release a new unit: a ww2 modern design hospital ship based on german cruise ships "Wilhelm Gustloff" \ "Robert Ley":

https://i.ibb.co/m6NQnnW/LSGustloff.jpg

This is a reworked version of original "Wilhelm Gustloff" by AOTD_MadMax (2007), reproportioned, with light effects, 3d details, 3d stairs and railings, reworked textures, correct number of lifeboats, new cranes, working searchlights, reworked .zon and .sil files...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rettschiff.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._in_Danzig.jpg

This is not a 100% correct Wilhelm Gustloff model. This is intended to act as a generic modern ocean liner \ cruise ship (single funnel, 2 masts) converted to hospital ship during ww2. That's why i've added also 3d red crosses on ship's side and other details.

d\l link: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=...57409134244404

Best regards,
Vd

Anvar1061 09-14-19 01:40 PM

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gap 09-14-19 06:13 PM

So nice! Thank you VonDos :yeah:

propbeanie 09-14-19 06:28 PM

Oooohhhh, pretty... lit up at night even. Very good :salute:

Hebe Vollmaus 09-15-19 12:29 AM

Thank you!
Greetings.

gap 09-15-19 08:36 AM

@ VonDos

Out of curiosity: why do you call your unit "generic"? As far as I can judge from a quick visual comparison with pictures of the real Wilhelm Gustloff, if not 100% accurate, your and AOTD_MadMax's model resembles the German hospital ship quite closely.

...and since you reward this unit as a 'generic modern ocean liner', why didn't you provide it with a generic war-grey texture together with the hospital ship texture? :)

Anvar1061 09-15-19 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2627413)
...and since you reward this unit as a 'generic modern ocean liner', why didn't you provide it with a generic war-grey texture together with the hospital ship texture? :)

Let me answer.
How do you imagine this ship in the neutral part and the opposite side of the AXIS?

VonDos 09-16-19 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2627413)
@ VonDos
Out of curiosity: why do you call your unit "generic"? As far as I can judge from a quick visual comparison with pictures of the real Wilhelm Gustloff, if not 100% accurate, your and AOTD_MadMax's model resembles the German hospital ship quite closely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061 (Post 2627426)
Let me answer.
How do you imagine this ship in the neutral part and the opposite side of the AXIS?


Well, if you assign a unit to "Red Cross" roster, this ship will be spawned in all hospital ship's route. Red Cross units will not serve as a Allied or Axis unit, so this can create a paradox like a soviet Wilhelm Gustloff, or a british one.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2627413)
...and since you reward this unit as a 'generic modern ocean liner', why didn't you provide it with a generic war-grey texture together with the hospital ship texture? :)

Are you serious?
Do you know how much time will this require to me, for create a realistic troop transport\floating barrack unit with a semi historically accurate A\A with supports, a gray skin, to add rafts and extra lifeboats... :/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

https://i.ibb.co/6th233P/SH3-Img-16-...-37-20-694.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/pLjChxv/202058-002.jpg
(Image taken from web, just a reference)

Just kidding. Not more than one hour using modular parts taken from previous units :rotfl2::rotfl2:

Best regards,
Vd

Anvar1061 09-16-19 08:32 AM

We will wait " Wilhelm Gustloff"

VonDos 09-16-19 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061 (Post 2627562)
We will wait " Wilhelm Gustloff"

Thank you!
While waiting, just a question for you.
Do you think this ship should be considered a "civil" unit (Type103=Troop Transport) or a military unit (Type13=Auxiliary Cruiser, or something different?)?

Best regards,
Vd

ps
Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie (Post 2627330)
Oooohhhh, pretty... lit up at night even. Very good :salute:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus (Post 2627355)
Thank you!
Greetings.

Thank you so much!

Anvar1061 09-17-19 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2627650)
Thank you!
While waiting, just a question for you.
Do you think this ship should be considered a "civil" unit (Type103=Troop Transport) or a military unit (Type13=Auxiliary Cruiser, or something different?)?

It already is
NPKDF
 
"[UnitClass] ClassName=PKDF UnitType=103 AppearanceDate=19380101 DisappearanceDate=19470101 DisplayName=GE Wilhelm Gustloff [Unit 1] Name=Wilhelm Gustloff DOC=19330101 DOD=19450601 [Unit 2] Name=Robert Ley DOC=19330101 DOD=19450601"

VonDos 09-17-19 04:16 AM

NPKDF Type103 as original, ok :up:

Pre release poster:

https://i.ibb.co/6Pn5wCX/BSGustloff.jpg

Best regards,
Vd

gap 09-30-19 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061 (Post 2627426)
Let me answer.
How do you imagine this ship in the neutral part and the opposite side of the AXIS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2627539)
Well, if you assign a unit to "Red Cross" roster, this ship will be spawned in all hospital ship's route. Red Cross units will not serve as a Allied or Axis unit, so this can create a paradox like a soviet Wilhelm Gustloff, or a british one.

As a modern liner in the roster of some neutral or allied nation, MadMax's/VonDos work is nothing but a generic unit but, placed in the German roster, the hospital ship - and her barrack ship reincarnation - look to me a pretty convincing reproduction of the actual Wilhelm Gustloff.

Only a perfectionist like VonDos could remind us that his model is not 100% accurate. How many SH units are btw? :03:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061 (Post 2627426)
Are you serious?
Do you know how much time will this require to me, for create a realistic troop transport\floating barrack unit with a semi historically accurate A\A with supports, a gray skin, to add rafts and extra lifeboats... :/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

Not more than one hour using modular parts taken from previous units :rotfl2::rotfl2:

:rotfl2:

I was half-kidding but the last pictures you have posted here show me that, depite your irony, you took my speculations pretty seriously lol :D

VonDos 09-30-19 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2629936)
...
I was half-kidding but the last pictures you have posted here show me that, depite your irony, you took my speculations pretty seriously lol :D

Oh, yes!
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=242524
Thanks for the idea! :up:
Best regards,
Vd

gap 09-30-19 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2630011)
Oh, yes!
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=242524
Thanks for the idea! :up:
Best regards,
Vd

I saw it, and I just post quite a long reply on that thread :03:


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