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iambecomelife 03-06-20 08:52 PM

Nice trailer! I say give it a chance - I know we hard core sub simmers like to take potshots at Hollywood cliches, but this looks passable. I doubt it will be as bad as, say, U-571.

Looks like a nice roster of WWII - era units - I noticed Fletcher DD's, Catalinas, a Flower Corvette, what looked like a C-2 Cargo, and plenty of period-appropriate merchants and liners. Much better than Pearl Harbor, which had several ships that were way too modern.

The "good luck surviving zee night" - lol - not entirely inaccurate; I have read at least two accounts where German subs/planes mocked the Allied escorts with English messages.

Would have preferred a film focusing on the British role in the Battle of the Atlantic, since of course they shouldered most of the load (and my own family fought for Britain in WWII). Still, I understand the need to keep a US audience interested.

Mork_417 03-06-20 09:19 PM

The trailer has me snagged. I will be going to see this. :D

John Pancoast 03-06-20 10:58 PM

Hmmm. Getting that "Here goes Hollywood again" feeling.

John Pancoast 03-06-20 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derstosstrupp (Post 2652844)
I turned it off after “good luck surviving ze night” came over the destroyer loudspeaker....

Me too. The radar got the usual Hollywood treatment too, though why the Allies needed radar is strange; how hard could it have been to see a u-boat with a huge red turm ?.......

Onkel Neal 03-06-20 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife (Post 2652931)
Nice trailer! I say give it a chance - I know we hard core sub simmers like to take potshots at Hollywood cliches, but this looks passable. I doubt it will be as bad as, say, U-571.

Looks like a nice roster of WWII - era units - I noticed Fletcher DD's, Catalinas, a Flower Corvette, what looked like a C-2 Cargo, and plenty of period-appropriate merchants and liners. Much better than Pearl Harbor, which had several ships that were way too modern.

The "good luck surviving zee night" - lol - not entirely inaccurate; I have read at least two accounts where German subs/planes mocked the Allied escorts with English messages.

Would have preferred a film focusing on the British role in the Battle of the Atlantic, since of course they shouldered most of the load (and my own family fought for Britain in WWII). Still, I understand the need to keep a US audience interested.


I'll go along with you, I will give it a chance, I plan to see it on Day 1. Love Tom Hanks and even if this is Hollywooded out, glad to the the subject covered.

Jimbuna 03-07-20 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iambecomelife (Post 2652931)
Nice trailer! I say give it a chance - I know we hard core sub simmers like to take potshots at Hollywood cliches, but this looks passable. I doubt it will be as bad as, say, U-571.

Looks like a nice roster of WWII - era units - I noticed Fletcher DD's, Catalinas, a Flower Corvette, what looked like a C-2 Cargo, and plenty of period-appropriate merchants and liners. Much better than Pearl Harbor, which had several ships that were way too modern.

The "good luck surviving zee night" - lol - not entirely inaccurate; I have read at least two accounts where German subs/planes mocked the Allied escorts with English messages.

Would have preferred a film focusing on the British role in the Battle of the Atlantic, since of course they shouldered most of the load (and my own family fought for Britain in WWII). Still, I understand the need to keep a US audience interested.

Must agree with you there but seeing as my father spent most of the war in the Atlantic I feel honour bound to give it a viewing.

I think your words will be much kinder than those of the majority of critics after the film is released (June 12).

NOTE: The majority of Greyhound was filmed on The U.S.S. Kidd, a Fletcher Navy destroyer, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where it has sat as a staple local monument and tourist attraction.

raymond6751 03-07-20 10:12 AM

Good ole Tom
 
Yikes! Another Tom Hanks war movie! Great guns!


This is the guy that did Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Fury, and has starred in, directed, or produced others - names I have forgotten.

You can be it will be good.

:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Cheers:

ChrisPhoenix 03-07-20 10:33 AM

I just hate movies where the germans are portrayed as complete idiots even tho they should be battle hardened veterans who have seen years and years of war... "Fury" was probably the absolute worst example of this.
Seeing the "Uboat drive bys" i have the bad feeling that this is going to be another one...
I will watch it out of curiosity and because well...Uboats. But the trailer worries me more than it excites me.

Jeff-Groves 03-07-20 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2652982)
NOTE: The majority of Greyhound was filmed on The U.S.S. Kidd, a Fletcher Navy destroyer, in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where it has sat as a staple local monument and tourist attraction.

I Toured The U.S.S. Kidd some years back when I was working in Baton Rouge.
:)

Jimbuna 03-07-20 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2653026)
I Toured The U.S.S. Kidd some years back when I was working in Baton Rouge.
:)

Have you forgotten what the judge told you should you ever go near kidds again :03:

:O:

John Pancoast 03-07-20 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymond6751 (Post 2653020)
Yikes! Another Tom Hanks war movie! Great guns!


This is the guy that did Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Fury, and has starred in, directed, or produced others - names I have forgotten.

You can be it will be good.

:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Cheers:

I'm not sure I'd call Spr (except for the beach scene) and Fury shining endorsements. <g>

Jeff-Groves 03-07-20 01:07 PM

Here's a picture from the USS Kidd.
https://i108.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original

Pablo 03-07-20 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subnuts (Post 2652757)
Pretty sure I never read about that part of the Battle of the Atlantic where U-boats with goofy conning tower emblems were doing Age-of-Sail style drive-bys on American destroyers which massively outgunned them.


Yes, I know I'm an idiot for expecting slow-burn tension or realism in a modern war movie.

Hi!

You may want to read about the duel between USS Chatelain and U-515 on April 9, 1944. Here's a picture taken by an aircraft assisting Chatelain. As you can see from the wake of the Chatelain, they were very close indeed. Chatelain is weaving to try to avoid being torpedoed as it crosses the U-boat's bow. You can see the smoke from the ship's guns and the shell splashes around the U-boat.

For SH3 fans, you can read about this in the GWX Manual, where we put in an historical scenario based on this event.

https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/..._001/U-515.jpg

Dietger 03-07-20 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus Shinra (Post 2652775)
That's obviously because it was so effective no Ally commander survived to tell about it. And the submariners don't talk about it to this day because it's a highly classified and effective tactic even using nuclear submarines.

Duh.


Confirm this. My Opa talked about this. But only in his sleep... °°

Dietger 03-07-20 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus Shinra (Post 2652775)
That's obviously because it was so effective no Ally commander survived to tell about it. And the submariners don't talk about it to this day because it's a highly classified and effective tactic even using nuclear submarines.

Duh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 2653061)
Hi!

You may want to read about the duel between USS Chatelain and U-515 on April 9, 1944. Here's a picture taken by an aircraft assisting Chatelain. As you can see from the wake of the Chatelain, they were very close indeed. Chatelain is weaving to try to avoid being torpedoed as it crosses the U-boat's bow. You can see the smoke from the ship's guns and the shell splashes around the U-boat.

For SH3 fans, you can read about this in the GWX Manual, where we put in an historical scenario based on this event.

https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/..._001/U-515.jpg


Forced to surface in an emergency, not actually to engage anyone nearby.

In no way a german torpedo - or anyone's could have been threatening a ship that close. Apparently the sub is absolute helpless and desperate...


Anyway. It may even help some jung people to get into the matter.



Fair winds!


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