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VonDos 12-24-21 04:43 AM

A last attempt - asking for a permission
 
Hi everyone!

I'm asking your help today in order to contact a person for ask permission to release "Sauro\Sella class DD" mod based on an old ship: HSwMS Puke.

I've found the original SH3-Converted ship. From the info .pdf, i've those names and address:

CONVERT BY
MOLKE2005

ORIGINAL AUTHOR
SOM GROUP

Date: 2010-07-18
Author: Yamatoforever Molke2005
Contact: yamatoforever@aol.com

Many weeks ago i've sent PM and Email to Yamatoforever (alias Molke2005), while a friend sent message to SOM Group. I've also posted the question on SOM Group vk.com page. Every attempt is sadly failed.

I know only a small part of the original mod has been used in my reworked model, but i'd like to have permission before release. Aniway, i'll give credits to authors and conversion authors.

Is there anyone who know a recently-used contact with one of those guys?


Thanks, best regards,
and have nice Christmas days!
Vd


ps original pics Vs modded pics:

https://i.ibb.co/Dwb36hH/Puke1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/0DZkCKR/Sauro1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/M7r40GX/puke2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/2qv0DtP/Sauro2.jpg

gap 12-25-21 07:08 PM

Hi VonDos, glad to see that you are still working on some new units previously missing from the SH world. :yeah:

I came across this post by "accident" while compiling a list of all the Reggia Marina ship classes which took part in WWII and while checking which ones are already available as 3D models, either from one of the SH games and their mods, or from other sources. By now I have a rather big collection of models on my HD that I will be glad to share with you if you are interested into taking inspiration from them for your own work.

The Quintino Sella and her sisters are one of the classes still missing from my collection, but I have recently acquired a model of their slightly larger half-sisters of the Sauro class, and a model of the Curtatone-class destroyers/torpedo boats (which, as far as I can understand, are the direct ancestors of the two aforementioned classes). Unfortunately I can't help you getting in touch with Molke2005, but I still hope to see the result of your recent efforts in game. The screenshots look very promising!

VonDos 12-25-21 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2784700)
Hi VonDos, glad to see that you are still working on some new units previously missing from the SH world. :yeah:

I came across this post by "accident" while compiling a list of all the Reggia Marina ship classes which took part in WWII and while checking which ones are already available as 3D models, either from one of the SH games and their mods, or from other sources. By now I have a rather big collection of models on my HD that I will be glad to share with you if you are interested into taking inspiration from them for your own work.

The Quintino Sella and her sisters are one of the classes still missing from my collection, but I have recently acquired a model of their slightly larger half-sisters of the Sauro class, and a model of the Curtatone-class destroyers/torpedo boats (which, as far as I can understand, are the direct ancestors of the two aforementioned classes). Unfortunately I can't help you getting in touch with Molke2005, but I still hope to see the result of your recent efforts in game. The screenshots look very promising!


Hi gap!

Thanks, yes, i'm really interested in model =) and yes, Sella\Sauro (and Turbine) classes derived from Curtatone-class DD/TB :up:
So, if you want, send me a link, please ^^

As you can find in my shipyard, i'm trying to model all the classes (well, too similar classes will be represented by single models, for example Montecuccoli\Aosta, Orsa\Pegaso, Spica\Ariete, Pilo\LaMasa\Generali\Sirtori, Sauro\Sella\Turbine etc).

My to do list could include (not sure about nothing):

Aquila CV (WIP, old model need an heavy refit)
Miraglia CVE
Cadorna class CL (WIP, derived from Barbiano)
Taranto old CL
Bari old CL
Sauro\Sella\Turbine (Beta, near release)
Mirabello\Leone DD
Curtatone DD\TB (maybe also Palestro, don't know)
Dardo\Folgore, or Maestrale\Oriani DD (WIP, they were similar)

All the others italian units (BB Littorio, BB Duilio, BB Cesare, CA Zara, CA Bolzano, CA Trento, CL Garibaldi\Abruzzi, CL Montecuccoli, CL Da Giussano, CL Capitani Romani, DD Navigatori, DD Soldati, TB Orsa, TB Spica, TB Sirtori\Pilo\LaMasa\Generali\Indomito, CO Gabbiano, Cruiser San Giorgio) are released and avaiable on my "Shipyard" page :D

Best regards, and happy Christmas days!
Vd

gap 12-25-21 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2784705)
Hi gap!

Thanks, yes, i'm really interested in model =)

please check your inbox :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2784705)
and yes, Sella\Sauro (and Turbine) classes derived from Curtatone-class DD/TB :up:

...which on turn derived from the Palestro-class, the latter being an interwar development of the UK-built Kawakaze, a destroyer of the Urakaze class originally laid down for the IJN but sold to Italy before completion and commissioned in the RM as Audace immediately after WWI :03:

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2784705)
As you can find in my shipyard, i'm trying to model all the classes (well, too similar classes will be represented by single models, for example Montecuccoli\Aosta, Orsa\Pegaso, Spica\Ariete, Pilo\LaMasa\Generali\Sirtori, Sauro\Sella\Turbine etc).

For many of the sibling classes you have mentioned I have separate models. Once you finish creating the most important/peculiar ship classes, and provided that the minor differences among those similar classes are significant enough, it could be interesting having separate models for each class rather than generic models representing two or three classes :)

VonDos 12-31-21 11:10 AM

Hi everyone!

After others weeks with no reply from original authors, i choose instead to rebuild the hull of Sauro class (last part from original Puke\Sella 3D model).

Here's a couple of pics:

https://i.ibb.co/ysGfTLD/SauroA.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/GPMCc3V/SauroB.jpg

The "parent" hull is now taken from Orsa TB, similar in dimensions, but with heavy modifications.

I'm rebuilding all in order to release her soon.

Best regards,
Vd

s7rikeback 12-31-21 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDos (Post 2785625)
Hi everyone!

After others weeks with no reply from original authors, i choose instead to rebuild the hull of Sauro class (last part from original Puke\Sella 3D model).

Here's a couple of pics:

https://i.ibb.co/ysGfTLD/SauroA.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/GPMCc3V/SauroB.jpg

The "parent" hull is now taken from Orsa TB, similar in dimensions, but with heavy modifications.

I'm rebuilding all in order to release her soon.

Best regards,
Vd

Looking forward to seing them ingame.


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