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Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense 07-21-06 07:58 AM

Dangerous Sequence Of Events
 
in my position as expert military analyst for the Bland Corporation (ref. Sellers, Kubrick, Strangelove PHD, lit) i am noticing what might be movement towards the initial use of tactical nuclear weapons by the Isreali military in the current crisis over there...

the recent warnings for civilians to evacuate 20 miles away from the border region is where i'm centering this observation and conclusion...

why 20 miles...

anyways... this is not first hand info... so if anyone can confirm that this is in fact the case (it is 20 miles as opposed to 20 km) i'd be quite appreciative...

hey... the Bland Corporation, while very well funded, doesn't have the best intelligence gathering capabilites in the world... we've all got big homes and fast cars and yachts... but our intel is just a bit thin...

hey... what can i say...

:cool:

--Mike

NeonSamurai 07-21-06 08:55 AM

I would be surprized if they would pull out tactical nukes at this point. Infact that would be utterly insane of them if they did.

Most likely they are planning on expanding their theater of operations and are giving warning to the civilians in an effort to minimise civilian casualties.

Skybird 07-21-06 10:19 AM

They won't use nukes, full stop. This thread is needless.

bradclark1 07-21-06 10:20 AM

Range of rockets would sound like a good reason to me.
Nukes? No there isn't a reason to use nukes. I'm sure Israeli nukes are for last stands.

bradclark1 07-21-06 10:21 AM

HAH. My reply is longer than Skybird's. I feel special now. :D

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense 07-21-06 10:32 AM

well... i hope you are all right...

http://datacore.sciflicks.com/dr_str...e_large_01.jpg

but the sentiment here at the Bland Corp is otherwise...


--Mike

Fish 07-21-06 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
well... i hope you are all right...

http://datacore.sciflicks.com/dr_str...e_large_01.jpg

but the sentiment here at the Bland Corp is otherwise...


--Mike

Is "Bland " not just a other word for superficial?

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense 07-21-06 11:02 AM

close enough...

but the name BLAND was undoubtedly chosen due to it's more than passing phonetic simlarity to RAND...

the RAND Corp... the BLAND Corp...

get it... the RAND Corp... a hi tech, military industrial think tank...

google it... there's more there than just this :)


--Mike

STEED 07-21-06 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
They won't use nukes, full stop. This thread is needless.

Here, here. :yep:

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense 07-21-06 11:39 AM

well... time will tell... surely i hope that the BLAND Corporation is wrong in its assesment...

but, objective analysis of the military movements so far, and the subsequent responses by the
opposing sides, tend to make this a definite possibility which cannot be ignored...

remember where you heard it first when you wake up and there it is on the news...

--Mike

tycho102 07-21-06 12:09 PM

There are two conditions under which Israel will start dropping and launching nuclear weapons.

One is when they are nuked, first. If Israel is nuked, there's no telling what the hell is going to happen. If it was me, knowing as much about Islam and the Koran as I now do, I would recognize it as a perceived weakness when all the muslims would be immediately incited to invade. I was moderated in another thread for posting exactly what I'd do, so I'll just leave this particular paragraph as it is.

Two is when they are invaded by a conventional armed mass. Troops. And if the troops had passed into the borders, and Israel was facing annhilation of it's population through conventional warfare, they would launch. Again, because it would be Jordan/Syria/Lebanon/Saudi Arabia/Qatar/Egypt against Israel, they are likely to retaliate against all of them. The muslim clergy stand united against the Jews, so it's highly probable they'll fall together, too.

There is the distinct possibility that, given certain targets, this would have the after effect of fracturing Islam -- not along sectarian lines, but along gang affiliation. There would be thousands of ambitious imams attempting to gain greater influence and become an ayatollah, leading to an entirely new inter-muslim conflict that Islam hasn't seen since it's founding.

Kapitan 07-21-06 02:08 PM

The use of nuclear weapons on a country that doesnt have nuclear weapons is unfair and unjust

Skybird 07-21-06 03:53 PM

Eevry kind of war is always and necessarily unfair and unjust, kapitan. not only nuclear ones - every kind of war causes innocent victims. That's why they call it "war". Fairness and justice are categories by which war cannot be defined.

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense 07-21-06 03:54 PM

it's worse than that... it's suicide...

the fallout has no political affiliation... last time i heard...

this next war will be quite fair... everyone will die...

--Mike

scandium 07-21-06 05:41 PM

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Einstein

P_Funk 07-21-06 05:46 PM

My dad was saying a week ago that he thinks theres a possibility that this could lead to the use of nuclear arms. Israel is out of control. They have lost all perspective. If they are going to bomb all of Lebannon to the ground because of 2 POWs what would happen if Israel was really threatened? And should Syria and Iran decide to weigh in much more heavily the US military, drowning in the Iraqi quick sand, wont beable to help Israel. Nukes are a possibility. There is a very strong apocalyptic streak in contemporary right wing of the US admin (all them neo-cons and such) and Israel is a theocratic nation (it is the sate embodiment of Judaism) so if they feel it is threatened they will use any and all force to save their home and destroy the evil dooers.

PeriscopeDepth 07-21-06 05:49 PM

Skybird's quite right. At best, war is an act of assasination where the other guy has no chance. When war is "fair", it's a craps shoot who dies.

PD

STEED 07-21-06 05:51 PM

The first casualty of war is the innocent.

P_Funk 07-21-06 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
Skybird's quite right. At best, war is an act of assasination where the other guy has no chance. When war is "fair", it's a craps shoot who dies.

PD

I posted in the SH3 forums a reply where I explained a theory of the origins of warfare as a means for human survival. War is inherently unfair because it was a response to scarcity which had unfairly distributed resources in such a way that all of the human beings living in tribes could not survive. So war is not just unfair, it is a manifestation of human frustration over his unfair lot. Though it has grown beyond that and become a cultural abhorration. Human culture is now very dysfunctional. We need a cosmic therapist. War means death, war means taking from someone that which is not yours,war is unfairness manifest. War cannot lead to justice.

mapuc 07-21-06 06:15 PM

If Isreal is gonna drop a nuke, isn't that opening the pandoras box?

Markus


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