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Ori_b 06-26-06 12:37 PM

HA HA, got this bloddy game at last!!
 
Fewww... now that was hard, since its not sold here, and no UK store would send it here, i almost gave up and used the STEAM (behh:dead: ) option.
After my wife wouldnt let me use some relatives of her that live in UK, I used the wife of a colleague (not what you think :stare: ) who had some biologic convention in Liverpool.
With a great timing (pure coincidence of course) she bought the last GAME.UK delux copy (actually the last copy literally) at hamleys.

Man, i wasnt so excited since OPF and TANK PLATOON.
lots of reading to do (although im glad i made my homework in the last few months - reading everything at SUBGURU since the SONAR part really sux),
now its a matter of getting used to other displays than the SSAZ of the kilo :)

Sorry for this rather pointless post, I'll shut up now :yep:

Bill Nichols 06-26-06 04:20 PM

I'll be interested in hearing what you think of my 'Gunboat Diplomacy' scenario. It's new to the European version.

XabbaRus 06-26-06 04:56 PM

It would also be nice to know when these will be released to the rest of the community.

Not ragging at you Bill, more Blackbean,

Nexus7 06-26-06 05:24 PM

Couldn't believe it's so hard to get a copy of DW... even here in Kosovo they sell it :lol:

goldorak 06-26-06 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
It would also be nice to know when these will be released to the rest of the community.

Not ragging at you Bill, more Blackbean,

Forget Blackbean, I'm wondering why those who bough the european version are not sharing with us the new scenarios ? :down:

LuftWolf 06-26-06 05:29 PM

I've decided the next version of LWAMI will be for the Micronesian DW customers only. :p :-?

Ori_b 06-26-06 11:45 PM

Btw, some scenarios still exist on Bill's site, maby in different versions.
I infer from the name that the scenario you speak about concerns the FFG7 so it will have to wait a bit (as I said - bit overhelmed here:D ).

Kurushio 06-27-06 06:00 AM

I think comparing the availability of Dangerous Waters in Kosovo to Britain is unfair. I mean, you can even buy a T-72 (low mileage, full service history, road tax) in Kosovo...maybe even a suitcase nuke. By the way...we are talking about ORIGINAL copies here, right? ;)

No...Dangerous Waters is nigh impossible to find here in Britain. I've been to the biggest PC Worlds...nothing. Toy R Us...nothing. Boots...nothing. Anne Summers...nothing. Seriously, this game...

So the lady went to Hamleys, did she? I'm curious how much it cost there..do you know how much she paid? :hmm: As far as I know, Hamleys don't stock many PC games. Very peculiar distribution, I must say.

Ori_b 06-27-06 07:12 AM

As I said, Im a proud owner of a LEGAL extended copy with all the printed manuals and two bonus disks. I insisted on a legal copy (was offered a pirated copy from a guy whom i made contact with about buying his old legal copy of SC,
what an irony :nope: ). I hope this small support help to convince SCS to support this great product and to continue producing more sims (although Im affraid that this will be the last we see from them).

From what i heard from my colleague, the saleswoman in hemleys didnt know about DW at first, it was another worker there who digged up the last copy.
He told my colleague's wife that they had recieved 4 coppies in total, 3 of them were bought on the day of arrival, the last one waited for me :) .

Oh, i payed 29.99 pounds for it.

Kurushio 06-27-06 07:17 AM

Ori...I was referring to Kosovo as the "non-original" copy. Interesting. Yes, I heard that from a few people...you have to ask a shop assistant about DW and then they send a co-worker down into the basement and come back up wth a dusty one full of cobwebs and say "...there were 4 down there" in a surprised voice. Maybe why I never saw it in PC World.

Ori_b 06-27-06 07:29 AM

Oopps, silly me, didnt read it thoroughly. :oops:

jasonbirder 06-27-06 07:40 AM

Plenty of the Dangerous Waters 2CD European version in my local Virgin megastore...Don't know if that helps anyone...

LuftWolf 06-27-06 07:54 AM

I think the problem is the day of computer game users working in computer game stores in long over...

I remember walking into Babbages back in the day, and the 20 something "kids" working there could not only tell you everything about most of the software in the store, but also how to edit config.sys and autoexec.bat files for particular titles... now you'd be lucky to find ANYONE in the store who plays computer games.

It's all Xbox and Playstation... I guess most people playing computer games these days aren't in retail.

JamesT73J 06-27-06 08:06 AM

I've seen DW in two game stores down here. The extra campaign thing intrigues me.

XabbaRus 06-28-06 04:26 AM

Well I e-mail BlackBean and asked about when the extra scenarios will be posted on the BlackBean website so the people who already have the BF or Strategy First version of DW can play them. I also did say I wasn't going to buy an extra copy just to get the scenarios.

Either he didn't understand my e-mail or they are hoping we will buy another copy as his answer was that if they put the scenarios up on the BlackBean website why would people want to purchase a copy. I'll post his e-mail later.

I was thinking those who don't have a copy will buy it in the store as they wouldn't be able to play the scenarios unless they have DW. Maybe BB are worried that people will get a warez copy of DW.

goldorak 06-28-06 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Well I e-mail BlackBean and asked about when the extra scenarios will be posted on the BlackBean website so the people who already have the BF or Strategy First version of DW can play them. I also did say I wasn't going to buy an extra copy just to get the scenarios.

Either he didn't understand my e-mail or they are hoping we will buy another copy as his answer was that if they put the scenarios up on the BlackBean website why would people want to purchase a copy. I'll post his e-mail later.

Very bad attitude from Black Bean.
We are not second class customers.
We supported the game from the first day it came out, by buying the battlefront release or the retail sf release.
They really are out of their minds if they think we will double dip just to have a few extra scenarios.

Quote:

I was thinking those who don't have a copy will buy it in the store as they wouldn't be able to play the scenarios unless they have DW. Maybe BB are worried that people will get a warez copy of DW.
Lets be realistic here, if SCS were worried about warez copies of DW they would have included any kind of copy protection since the battlefront release.
The people who wanted this game have already bought it.
I think the bottom line is that BB thinks we will double dip but that is just preposterous.
At this moment I really wish someone who has bought the european release will be generous enough to share with the community the extra scenarios and missions.
Its not as if the license forbids the sharing of the scenarios and/or missions.
This is just the case of another greedy publisher. :down:

Nexus7 06-28-06 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurushio
I think comparing the availability of Dangerous Waters in Kosovo to Britain is unfair. I mean, you can even buy a T-72 (low mileage, full service history, road tax) in Kosovo...maybe even a suitcase nuke. By the way...we are talking about ORIGINAL copies here, right? ;)

What? Do you have doubts? rofl

On a more serious note... it was kind of a pleasure to see some copies of DW in the proximity of games like CallOfDuty2 and some other great games :)

Ori_b 06-28-06 09:04 AM

Since those scenarios made by bill for some kind of payment, it wouldnt be fair just giving them away. The least we can do is wait for his permission.
I dont think they intend to make all of you buy another copy, i think its more for those with a light finger on the IMULE, you cant blame them for it. I mean, i was really surprised when i searched all the booklets and boxes and didnt find any kind of CD key.

BTW, All those extra missions weigh less then 10MB and most of it is RSR.

Onkel Neal 06-28-06 04:51 PM

I have a contact at BB, I'll e-mail them. Essentially, why not allow folks have these scenarios, those who have paved the way for DW success by purchasing the game when it first came out? They can only play the scenarios on the DW game... may as well spread a little goodwill.

Neal

goldorak 06-29-06 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
I have a contact at BB, I'll e-mail them. Essentially, why not allow folks have these scenarios, those who have paved the way for DW success by purchasing the game when it first came out? They can only play the scenarios on the DW game... may as well spread a little goodwill.

Neal

Hear, hear the voice of reason. :up:
You're dead-on Neal, the scenarios/missions are absolutely useless without DW (any version, battlefront, strategy first, steam).
I'm thinking that since all the versions of DW are essentialy the same, BB doesn't want to loose legitimate sales to people that would buy the american retail release and or the steam release and then play BB extra scenarios.
Piracy doesn't even come into play here. Its all about keeping your market share.
Unfortunately we early customers are between the hammer and the anvil.


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