Da Vinci Code provokes protests ahead of premiere
 

Da Vinci Code provokes protests ahead of premiere

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertain...78&p=y8z8z8584

Christian groups as far away as South Korea, Thailand and India protested against the movie The Da Vinci Code ahead of tomorrow’s premiere at the Cannes Film Festival.

They were planning boycotts, a hunger strike and attempts to block or shorten screenings.

And here I thought only Islam did such things. :roll:

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Jury's still out on that one. Lets see if they get violent and start riots and such like muslims do.

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Or like christian fundamentalists who bomb abortion clinics?

the bible actually mentions (i seem to remember) that angels were tempted out of heaven to sleep with human females---what happened to their bloodline ? i think that's a more interesting story me self--

Good point. But id argue thats not the mainstream biblethumper. In otherwords, how many Muslims were rioting over some (trivial) cartoons vs how many bible thumpers bomb abortion clinics? I'd argue that Islamic violence is more mainstream.

yup we lost the battle against fundamentalist religion (and quite a few other types of folks aswell) when we decided that a guy with a petrol bomb has more rights than a guy with some coloured pens-- yup we lost the war right then and there-- game over--

Your meaing evades me.


To reiterate one of my thoughts.. if your going to riot, at pick something a bit more meaningful then a couple cartoons. Cartoons!!! At least with something like abortion, you dont neccessarly have to condon the action done, but at least the zeal behind it is a bit more comprehendable by comparision. This isnt to insinuate that the object that is on the recieving end of these riots has more rights then the other.


Now, personnally the instant i heard about this movie i knew there was going to be protests, (all over the US) and to me, thats enteraining! :-j Primarly beause when people shove Jesus down your throat so often at every opportunity its quite fun to see these people get their panties in a twist .

Samoa has banned this movie :o

Its seems some ppl take a hollywood flick to seriously :-j

True, you have a point here. Recall though that it wasn't that long ago when christianity was every bit as backward (when scientific inquiry can and was judged blasphemous and its practioners condemned to death for it; the various "witch trials", etc). My point is only that Christianity is merely a little more evolved, yet being itself a religious doctrine not so different from Islam, shares many of its theocratic/authoritarian tendencies. Because it is more "wordly" now these tendencies are expressed differently (in a more "civilized" manner), but they remain all the same.

While the hooplah over this fictional movie is just as silly as the cartoon protests, the christian fundamental lobby does exert real influence on serious matters of policy that effect everyday life: things like religious based opposition to abortion and contraceptive use (where christian fundamentalist opposition to condom usage and distribution in African countries results, ultimately, in thousands of deaths to AIDS), the HPV/cervical cancer vaccine, and to stem cell research setting back who knows how long how many possible cures, all have real consequences to people somewhere everyday. However these stories are less sensational than a Muslim getting stoned for adultery in some 3rd world hellhole that most people have never even heard of, let alone been to.

I agree, id never argue against that. The only difference between christiantly and islam is a few hundred years of evolution, but otherwise they are essnetually the same. Try telling that to the devote though! Ohhh thats entertainment. But i degress, this difference is a key difference. How often do you hear about a christian zealot hijacking airplanes, bombing buildings, or the like?

Then again In some odd ways modern christiantly is worse then islam because it's advocates are very manipulative and find new and intresting ways to force others to live by their beleifs. Sometimes im not sure which is worse, but in the end, if i had to put up with, and live with either of these groups, id pick the one that wont blow me up or decapitate me simply beause i dont agree with them.

The problem with Da Vinci Code is the same problem as with Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil and that recent book by... I think it was "Frey?" The one about addiction? They're all novels purporting to be true stories.

While i ahvent seen the movie, ive seen some of Davinci code in a little more detail on the history channel, and well, if you ask me, its alot like some masionic conspiricy theory......


http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/capta...pics/signs.jpg
http://biphome.spray.se/wallius/private/believe.jpg

This is not true. The novel is just that - a novel. It is written by a novelist who writes fiction and who has made no attempt to portray it as anything other than that.

Like most stories, outside of science fiction, he weaves the story around actual events (in this case historical/biblical ones) which he in turn takes some creative license with. In this way the move is no different from the rash of historically set films that Hollywood has been releasing lately (such as "Troy"), in which artistic license (or "historical revision" if the movie made any pretense at being anything other than a work of fiction, which The Da Vinci Code does not) is used throughout.

One of the things the zealots want added to the movie, in fact, is a notice shown at the beginning of the movie announcing that it is fiction - as if it needs it (when was the last time you watched a movie, any movie, with such a notice at the beginning of it?).

So the problem is not that the novel pretends to be non-fiction (at least no more than any other novel does), but that there is fear among the christian fundamentalists that their congregations might be naive enough to see it and not realize it is only a movie... and that they might (oh no!) even have their sacred beliefs challenged.

Conspiracy! There really are two Masons in Kafiristan trying to slowly take over the world. Conspiracy my ass...
http://img1.imageshack.us/img1/7360/king2ys.jpg

:-j

Not a very good novel, imo. Read it, found it pretty typical. If it was different subject matter, I can't see how it could have gotten published.

that movie is one my favorites!


We're not gods, we're Englishmen!

The bloodlines of such were wiped out in 40 days and nights of rain....Only one line survived.

Genesis 6
[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3] And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
[5] And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
[6] And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
[8] But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

It is almost funny reading the compairsions to Christianiaty and Islam....I think many people tend to "Lump" all Baptists,Catholics,Mormons,Protastants, into the category of Christian....The word Christian I thought meant a follower of Christ....In the Bible it speaks of no other religion or any religion for that matter....it speaks of Jew and Gentile.It speaks of the bloodlines of Abraham who is the father of faith

Genisis 17
[7] And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee


[19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
[20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
[21] But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year


Muslims come from the seed of Ishmael and the Jews who were given the promise thru Isaac also screwed up by not listening to God and following His instructions so the Kingdom went out unto the Gentiles....until the "End of Times"...when the eyes of the Jews will be re-opened....the muslim is in the same boat as the Gentile as is the JEW....Christ did away with all JEW,Gentile,Muslim,Black,white,green,yellow and paid the price with his own blood and bought the human race for himself.

Christians true followers of Christs teachings know all these things must come to pass as the end of times draws near...it is nothing to fear like it has not been told about....the conflict at the moment is the Jew and the Muslim fighting over things that they have no control over really anyways...they're eyes are closed...they're spiritual eyes...

Galatians 4
[22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
[23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
[27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
[28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
[29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
[30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
[31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Those who will live, will live by faith.Faith in what Jesus did so there is no boasting of works.The scriptures are encrypted that those of the flesh will not understand but those who have the key will hear and understand.

Peace

Another classic early Christian mistranslation.

Original Hebrew interpretation:

1. And it came to pass when man commenced to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them.

2. That the sons of the nobles saw the daughters of man when they were beautifying themselves, and they took for themselves wives from whomever they chose.

On this, Rashi, the most standardized commentary on the Torah, compiles the following existing explanations:

the sons of the nobles
Heb. בָּנֵי הָ�ֱלֹהִי� (bnei elohim), the sons of the princes (Targumim) and the judges (Medrash Gen. Rabbah 26:5). Another explanation: בָּנֵי הָ�ֱלֹהִי� (bnei elohim) are the princes who go as messengers of the Omnipresent. They too mingled with them (Pirkei d’Rabbi Eliezer, ch. 22). Every �ֱלֹהִי� (elohim) in Scripture is an expression of authority, and the following proves it (Exod. 4:16):“And you shall be to him as a lord (לֵ�לֹהִי� - le'lohim)� ; (ibid. 7:1):“See, I have made you a lord (�ֶלֹהִי� - elohim).�

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Or like non-denominational eco-terrorists.

Where are Christians commanded to kill abortionists? Site the scriptures. What Church groups advocate this, sighting religious legal doctrine?

Now ask yourself what do Islamic texts, legal fatwahs and schools of scholarship say regarding blasphemers and those that insult Islam and/or its prophet?

These 2 things are not alike. Some day you might just catch on. Here's a refresher for you.

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I'm not sure what your point here is with the link to paid right- wing shill Michelle Malkin. That she doesn't like Al Gore and makes a living publishing diatribes against anything perceived as "left-wing"? Never would have guessed that.

Not sure what your point is here. Are you denying christian extremists have ever blown up an abortion clinic? In any case I had my fill of the scriptures going to Catholic school and won't be debating any theology here with you or anyone else. You don't have to be a biblical scholar though to have noted such instances over the years; you simply have to had to have picked up a newspaper (this is also where most of us prefer to read about current events as it tends to be more up-to-date than the scriptures).

The only thing I see here is that you (and others here) happily trash Islam at the drop of a hat while giving christianity a free pass. Which is fine, but please spare me the history re-write as one doesn't need to be a theologist to keep abreast of current events.