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supposedtobeworking 05-23-06 05:55 PM

Buying a PC solely for SH3!! Please Advise.
 
I can't take it any longer and am going to buy a PC for the sole and single purpose of running SH3.(':lol:')..that being said, I am a recent college grad and have no money so here's what I found for about $400 on tigerdirect.com (without the rebate of course):

IBM Netvista PC
INtel P4 2.4 Ghz
512 DDR
DVD-Rom
Windows XP Pro SP1
Integrated intel graphics

a link with more specific specs is follows:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ab=11&NoMapp=0

Can anyone tell me if I purchase this, would SH3 run and be playable?

Thanks!

HunterICX 05-23-06 06:09 PM

The intel Graphic card will be an Problem m8,
on the box it sais by Supported Vid Cards
Nvidia or Ati

My advice look for an AGP slot graphic card
look around for 128 MB ram graphic cards of Ati or Nvidia.
they arent really expensive.

Myself I have an Nvidia Geforce FX5700LE 256 TD ddram
and it cost around the 130 euros.

Good luck :up:

Curval 05-23-06 06:09 PM

Integrated graphics? I don't think SH3 will like that at all. :down:

kiwi_2005 05-23-06 06:20 PM

Yeah everything else is ok, except for those onboard graphics which no doubt will be 64mb so your be lagging your way to the bottom of the atlantic. :) Has this mobo got an AGP slot? if so try and buy a cheapo graphics card like a 6 series nVidia Geforce 6200 256mb ram they are cheap as. $107 in new zealand, no doubt be the same price everywhere else.

supposedtobeworking 05-23-06 10:42 PM

Ok Thanks for the advice guys, there is an agp slot and I will pick up a video card, my only remaining concern is the 512 DDR, because I have heard that you cannot run great mods like grey wolves without 1 gb of ram. Do any of you with 512 DDR run into any problems? Thanks again.

VonHelsching 05-23-06 11:39 PM

I think that you can find something better with that budget. At least 1 Gb memory and a 256 card. Think ahead, for the nex 2-3 years. Also I would go for a PCI Express graphics card.

supposedtobeworking 05-24-06 01:10 AM

Really?! :o I can find a PC with a 1G Ram and better for about $400? I've checked and done a lot of research but if you know where I can find one please let me know!! Thx

Dowly 05-24-06 01:43 AM

More RAM!! :up:

Gizzmoe 05-24-06 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supposedtobeworking
Really?! :o I can find a PC with a 1G Ram and better for about $400? I've checked and done a lot of research but if you know where I can find one please let me know!! Thx

The best place would be a small local computer dealer. For about $400 you could get:

Socket 754 board with PCI-Express and onboard sound ($45)
AMD Sempron 2800+ ($65)
1GB (2x512MB) RAM, PC3200, no special brand ($90)
160GB Harddisk, SATA ($60)
A cheap case with a generic 300-350W PSU (40$)
ATI X700, 256MB, PCI-Express ($100). Look for a real X700, no X700SE or LE.
A cheap DVD-ROM ($15)

Price: $415.

If you are able to spend about $50 more you should get an Athlon 64 3000+ and a Socket 939 board (much better upgradability!).

Dowly 05-24-06 04:17 AM

Gizz strikes again. :rotfl:

HunterICX 05-24-06 04:26 AM

the best PC is an Self-Made one
Choose ur own part and case
so you can keep upgrading it so you do not have to buy a whole new system when we are an generation further in PC's

What I'm about to do from my
2,8ghz Intel
512 DDR ram pc3200 ----> to 2x1024 DDR ram (186 €) the shop says its the best my motherboard can have
Geforce FX5700LE 256 TD ram ----> to Geforce Serie 6 or 7 256 ram

shegeek72 05-24-06 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
Has this mobo got an AGP slot? if so try and buy a cheapo graphics card like a 6 series nVidia Geforce 6200 256mb ram they are cheap as. $107 in new zealand, no doubt be the same price everywhere else.

Ack! The 6200 is a POS! SH3 will stutter with a 6200! Get at least a 6600 GT if you're going AGP. But I also recommend getting a mobo with PCI-X. :up:

SG
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AMD 64 3000+
Gigabyte GA-K8NS
2 gig Kingston RAM
Maxtor SATA 60 GB
WD IDE 80 GB
nVidia 6600 GT

Gizzmoe 05-24-06 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shegeek72
But I also recommend getting a mobo with PCI-X. :up:

PCI-Express! PCI-X is something completely different.

kiwi_2005 05-24-06 05:22 AM

Quote:

Ack! The 6200 is a POS! SH3 will stutter with a 6200! Get at least a 6600 GT if you're going AGP. But I also recommend getting a mobo with PCI-X.
Of course its a POS :-j but my mate runs SH3 good using this card, There are so many versions of the 6200, the one to get is the one with the fan. Because the poster is low on cash i recommended a cheap card for him. But reading Gizzmoe's post further up, i didn't know the ATI X700, 256MB, PCI-Express were going for $100. This card would be way better. The 6600GT is a good card, but it will cost him more.

Coort 05-24-06 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
Quote:

Ack! The 6200 is a POS! SH3 will stutter with a 6200! Get at least a 6600 GT if you're going AGP. But I also recommend getting a mobo with PCI-X.
Of course its a POS :-j but my mate runs SH3 good using this card, There are so many versions of the 6200, the one to get is the one with the fan. Because the poster is low on cash i recommended a cheap card for him. But reading Gizzmoe's post further up, i didn't know the ATI X700, 256MB, PCI-Express were going for $100. This card would be way better. The 6600GT is a good card, but it will cost him more.

I think x700 can do his job with no problem, i'm using a laptop with Centrino and an integrated x600, only with intensive graphic mods or UC (actually i'm trying the Ducimus version, same problem) i have real problem with slow fps, but with stock or old harbour traffic no problem.
I'm not even sure that the ati card is the real problem, 'cause with UC i noticed that i run out of virtual memory (physical 1gb, pagefile settings 700mb to 1.5gig, now trying with limit set to 1gb to 2gb), but better graphic card chipset and memory less work for cpu & ram.

cobalt 05-24-06 08:46 AM

i run sh3 and GW supermod absolutely perfectly with some surprise with these current specs.


2.53ghz p4
512mb DDR
ATI Radeon 9600pro

for a rig running that now a day is very cheap, you should look into something like that, maybe a bit more RAM but otherwise just fine.

supposedtobeworking 05-24-06 04:57 PM

Thanks for all of your help mates. About putting a Pc together,I have never built a computer before and don't know anyone who could help me for free...so I was avoiding that option. But I really don't care about longevity and keeping up with the newest and bestest, I just wanna play SH3. I have a sentimental affinity for and fascination with subsims since I was a kid, and I just want a PC that will run SH3 (pref. modded) so I can have a little fun once and a while, and maintain a balanced life, hehe. Otherwise I will start buying loads of games and disappear from the face of the earth :rock: So basically if I got the system mentioned in the first post, then all I need to do is get a decent video card, (or more RAM at most), and I would probably be all set right? Thanks again.

shegeek72 05-24-06 08:39 PM

Quote:

PCI-Express! PCI-X is something completely different.
My bad! :dead:
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Gizzmoe 05-24-06 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supposedtobeworking
So basically if I got the system mentioned in the first post, then all I need to do is get a decent video card, (or more RAM at most), and I would probably be all set right? Thanks again.

No, there are a few problems. The Netvista only has two memory slots and both are in use. You could remove one 256MB chip and add a 512MB chip so that you have 768MB, but there´s a chance that those mixed chips won´t work together. Especially Netvista´s can be very picky sometimes.

It also only has a 185W PSU which might not be powerful enough for a decent video card.

This PC looks quite interesting:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Tab=2&NoMapp=0

It has a powerful CPU, a 300W PSU, a spare memory slot and a PCI-Express slot.

supposedtobeworking 05-24-06 10:20 PM

Thanks Gizzmoe for that link--I checked it out, and it looks good, pricewise for me, but I am curious if SH3 will be ok with AMD Sempron, because the specs on the website only mention Athlon as a supported cpu. What do you think? I appreciate all of your help, my scheme is almost complete...Silent Hunter 3 will be mine at last oh yes.. :lol:


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