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robj250 04-23-06 08:40 PM

Crew fatigue
 
Well, since I had to do a clean re-install, it means that the configuration I had done to one of the files is all gone :cry: I came across insructions, a while back, on how to change the configuration relating to crew fatigue and now I cannot find that piece of paper. Does anyone know what file I am referring to, so I can change the values and what the numbers I am supposed to change the values to. That way I don't have a crew that gets fatigued. In other words, getting rid of the problem. :up: I am getting tired of having to go through the process of changing crews all the time, especially when I'm in an attack mode, taking on a large convoy. :down: Thanks, Robert

Rosencrantz 04-25-06 02:50 AM

Go to Sticky: List of modific.... etc. That's a good source. Myself I use the 24h Holl. with minor adjustments.

-RC-

Khayman 04-25-06 03:47 AM

Sh3/data/cfg/basic.cfg

Open that with notepad. Do a find for "fatigue_coef" then change all the values to 0.0, like this;

[FATIGUE_COEF]
;comp 0
RegularFactor00=0.0
SpecificFactor00=0.0
BadWeather0=0.0
;comp1
RegularFactor10=0.0
RegularFactor11=0.0
SpecificFactor10=0.0
SpecificFactor11=0.0
BadWeather1=0.0
;comp2
RegularFactor20=0.0
RegularFactor21=0.0
SpecificFactor20=0.0
SpecificFactor21=0.0
BadWeather2=0.0
;comp3
RegularFactor30=0.0
RegularFactor31=0.0
SpecificFactor30=0.0
SpecificFactor31=0.0
BadWeather3=0.0
;comp4
RegularFactor40=0.0
RegularFactor41=0.0
SpecificFactor40=0.0
SpecificFactor41=0.0
BadWeather4=0.0
;comp5
RegularFactor50=0.0
RegularFactor51=0.0
SpecificFactor50=0.0
SpecificFactor51=0.0
BadWeather5=0.0
;comp6
SpecificFactor60=0.0
SpecificFactor61=0.0
;comp7
SpecificFactor70=0.0
SpecificFactor71=0.0
;comp8
RegularFactor80=0.0
RegularFactor81=0.0
SpecificFactor80=0.0
SpecificFactor81=0.0
BadWeather8=0.0
;comp9
RegularFactor90=0.0
SpecificFactor90=0.0
BadWeather9=0.0
;comp10
RegularFactor100=0.0
SpecificFactor100=0.0
BadWeather10=0.0
;comp 11
RegularFactor110=0.0
RegularFactor111=0.0
SpecificFactor110=0.0
SpecificFactor111=0.0
BadWeather11=0.0

Dead easy :)

Beery 04-25-06 06:30 AM

Just use SH3 Commander. You can change fatigue to basically whatever you want with just one mouse click.

robj250 04-25-06 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beery
Just use SH3 Commander. You can change fatigue to basically whatever you want with just one mouse click.

I see this SH Commander recommended by various people. I do not know the advantages of using it instead of the stock game. Perhaps you could tell me. :D I have just made a CLEAN install after having problems with the installation of some mods. :-? There should really be a list of which mod should be extracted by JSGME and in what order they should be installed into the game. That would really make things easy for those of us who are not capable of logical thinking sometimes. :dead: There are SO MANY mods out there and I have no idea which should be installed prior to installing an additional. I had also heard mentioned that some mods are outdated in relation to installing RUb1.45. I just finish a CLEAN install for a third time because of complications due to mod installation. Yes, I used to be a professor by profession, but that was quite sometime ago and now, because of my complicated incurable diseases, I do not think that well anymore. PLUS, a lot of mods come with no instruction sheet on how to install and do not provide the appropriate folder to put into the MOD folder and use JSGME to install them. SO, you see my problem. I love the game. :rock: I have played every submarine game that came out - I think they are great (except for 688(i) because it was too complicated for me). I just finished reading the information that came with RUb1.45 - are there really mines in the ports? I have not installed anything after that yet. But, I live to have as much in additional mods in the game as possible that do not conflict with each other. I WILL take the precaution of testing each mod I install before using it in my career. I am tired of reinstalling the game. :down: This is now the 4th fresh start. SO, where do I go from here? Please tell me why I should install SH3 Commander and how it affects the game. I would be pleased to do so if it does not wreck my career (which I had backed up). Thanks for responding. NOW, if I can only get someone who would keep me informed of which mod to install next, and if I come across one that does not have install instructions, or the instructions are in a foreign language, it would be great if someone would tell me what to do with it. Also, when these mods do not come with a folder to put into the MOD folder and has to be installed manually, that could be my problem. I DO backup originals before installing. By doing some checking in relations to sounds in the game and speeches, why are their mods that make the originals worse instead of better??? If SH3 Commander would enhance the game for me, then I will install it. My next planned install is Augie RecManual, then JCW_Intros and then the Sound Trainer and finally the Bow Fix VIIB as I hate that mast in the front of the sub. One thing I do find is that I cannot read those small dials at the bottom. Three more things: I want to remove the words "GAME PAUSED" because I take a lot of snaps when playing; 2) I AM going to change the fatigue factor and lastly, I AM going to change the length of time that a person gets promoted from a simple Lieutenant Jr. I was an Oberlieutnant z. Sr. but I forget what file I had to change for those and I lost the piece of paper I had in the order of the promotions in rank after Oberlieutnant z. Sr. I know that the game pause is #90 and the other ranks are around #170, but I forget which file. I DO NOT want to play any more game where the fatigue factor starts to interfere and I have to quit an enemy attack because everyone in the sub is fatigued!!! I hate getting sunk, doesn't everyone??? hehe. Thanks for listening to my whinning. Robert. If there are any spelling mistakes, it's because my fingers do not always do what they are supposed to :cry:

U-Bones 04-25-06 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beery
Just use SH3 Commander. You can change fatigue to basically whatever you want with just one mouse click.

I see this SH Commander recommended by various people. I do not know the advantages of using it instead of the stock game. Perhaps you could tell me. :D I have just made a CLEAN install after having problems with the installation of some mods. :-? There should really be a list of which mod should be extracted by JSGME and in what order they should be installed into the game. That would really make things easy for those of us who are not capable of logical thinking sometimes. :dead: There are SO MANY mods out there and I have no idea which should be installed prior to installing an additional. I had also heard mentioned that some mods are outdated in relation to installing RUb1.45. I just finish a CLEAN install for a third time because of complications due to mod installation. Yes, I used to be a professor by profession, but that was quite sometime ago and now, because of my complicated incurable diseases, I do not think that well anymore. PLUS, a lot of mods come with no instruction sheet on how to install and do not provide the appropriate folder to put into the MOD folder and use JSGME to install them. SO, you see my problem. I love the game. :rock: I have played every submarine game that came out - I think they are great (except for 688(i) because it was too complicated for me). I just finished reading the information that came with RUb1.45 - are there really mines in the ports? I have not installed anything after that yet. But, I live to have as much in additional mods in the game as possible that do not conflict with each other. I WILL take the precaution of testing each mod I install before using it in my career. I am tired of reinstalling the game. :down: This is now the 4th fresh start. SO, where do I go from here? Please tell me why I should install SH3 Commander and how it affects the game. I would be pleased to do so if it does not wreck my career (which I had backed up). Thanks for responding. NOW, if I can only get someone who would keep me informed of which mod to install next, and if I come across one that does not have install instructions, or the instructions are in a foreign language, it would be great if someone would tell me what to do with it. Also, when these mods do not come with a folder to put into the MOD folder and has to be installed manually, that could be my problem. I DO backup originals before installing. By doing some checking in relations to sounds in the game and speeches, why are their mods that make the originals worse instead of better??? If SH3 Commander would enhance the game for me, then I will install it. My next planned install is Augie RecManual, then JCW_Intros and then the Sound Trainer and finally the Bow Fix VIIB as I hate that mast in the front of the sub. One thing I do find is that I cannot read those small dials at the bottom. Three more things: I want to remove the words "GAME PAUSED" because I take a lot of snaps when playing; 2) I AM going to change the fatigue factor and lastly, I AM going to change the length of time that a person gets promoted from a simple Lieutenant Jr. I was an Oberlieutnant z. Sr. but I forget what file I had to change for those and I lost the piece of paper I had in the order of the promotions in rank after Oberlieutnant z. Sr. I know that the game pause is #90 and the other ranks are around #170, but I forget which file. I DO NOT want to play any more game where the fatigue factor starts to interfere and I have to quit an enemy attack because everyone in the sub is fatigued!!! I hate getting sunk, doesn't everyone??? hehe. Thanks for listening to my whinning. Robert. If there are any spelling mistakes, it's because my fingers do not always do what they are supposed to :cry:

A picture is worth 1000 words.
Sh3 Commander Options Page....
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze33y78/nofatigue.jpg

For you, SH3 Commander is worth it just for this one checkbox. It basically will override any fatigue setting of any mods you have installed - NON-destructively. (and so much more).

robj250 04-25-06 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Bones
Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beery
Just use SH3 Commander. You can change fatigue to basically whatever you want with just one mouse click.

I see this SH Commander recommended by various people. I do not know the advantages of using it instead of the stock game. Perhaps you could tell me. :D I have just made a CLEAN install after having problems with the installation of some mods. :-? There should really be a list of which mod should be extracted by JSGME and in what order they should be installed into the game. That would really make things easy for those of us who are not capable of logical thinking sometimes. :dead: There are SO MANY mods out there and I have no idea which should be installed prior to installing an additional. I had also heard mentioned that some mods are outdated in relation to installing RUb1.45. I just finish a CLEAN install for a third time because of complications due to mod installation. Yes, I used to be a professor by profession, but that was quite sometime ago and now, because of my complicated incurable diseases, I do not think that well anymore. PLUS, a lot of mods come with no instruction sheet on how to install and do not provide the appropriate folder to put into the MOD folder and use JSGME to install them. SO, you see my problem. I love the game. :rock: I have played every submarine game that came out - I think they are great (except for 688(i) because it was too complicated for me). I just finished reading the information that came with RUb1.45 - are there really mines in the ports? I have not installed anything after that yet. But, I live to have as much in additional mods in the game as possible that do not conflict with each other. I WILL take the precaution of testing each mod I install before using it in my career. I am tired of reinstalling the game. :down: This is now the 4th fresh start. SO, where do I go from here? Please tell me why I should install SH3 Commander and how it affects the game. I would be pleased to do so if it does not wreck my career (which I had backed up). Thanks for responding. NOW, if I can only get someone who would keep me informed of which mod to install next, and if I come across one that does not have install instructions, or the instructions are in a foreign language, it would be great if someone would tell me what to do with it. Also, when these mods do not come with a folder to put into the MOD folder and has to be installed manually, that could be my problem. I DO backup originals before installing. By doing some checking in relations to sounds in the game and speeches, why are their mods that make the originals worse instead of better??? If SH3 Commander would enhance the game for me, then I will install it. My next planned install is Augie RecManual, then JCW_Intros and then the Sound Trainer and finally the Bow Fix VIIB as I hate that mast in the front of the sub. One thing I do find is that I cannot read those small dials at the bottom. Three more things: I want to remove the words "GAME PAUSED" because I take a lot of snaps when playing; 2) I AM going to change the fatigue factor and lastly, I AM going to change the length of time that a person gets promoted from a simple Lieutenant Jr. I was an Oberlieutnant z. Sr. but I forget what file I had to change for those and I lost the piece of paper I had in the order of the promotions in rank after Oberlieutnant z. Sr. I know that the game pause is #90 and the other ranks are around #170, but I forget which file. I DO NOT want to play any more game where the fatigue factor starts to interfere and I have to quit an enemy attack because everyone in the sub is fatigued!!! I hate getting sunk, doesn't everyone??? hehe. Thanks for listening to my whinning. Robert. If there are any spelling mistakes, it's because my fingers do not always do what they are supposed to :cry:

A picture is worth 1000 words.
Sh3 Commander Options Page....
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze33y78/nofatigue.jpg

For you, SH3 Commander is worth it just for this one checkbox. It basically will override any fatigue setting of any mods you have installed - NON-destructively. (and so much more).

So, Berry and U-Bones. You think I should install SH3 Commander now, before I install anything else? Robert

robj250 04-25-06 08:10 AM

SH3 Commander
 
If I were to install SH3 Commander, how does that affect the other mods I wish to install??
Oh, I just read that RUb1.45 already installed a hospital ship, then why is there an additional hospital ship mod???
Robert

robj250 04-25-06 08:31 AM

Just read the SH3 FAQ
 
Now I am really confused. I just read the SH3 Commander FAQ and it seems that people are having problems with it. Does it alter my career that I have already saved and does it alter my already achieved crew efficiency? Since I have already installed MVP and RUb1.45, will it work with them? Do I still use JSGME to activate mods? Confused. :oops: Robert

Sailor Steve 04-25-06 10:41 AM

SHIII Commander does exactly nothing...until you ask it to.

With it you can randomise your crew names (and your Captain's name) one at a time, or all together. It lets you:

A: Manage your crew. It takes you to a special screen that lets you give out extra medals and qualifications. It lets you promote or demote crew members at your choice.

B: Look at your Captain's life and career. It tells you when and where he was born, and after he retires it tells you about the rest of his career and life. It also retires him after a random amount of patrols...but only if you want it too.

C: Set the parameters of the game: Do you want the deck gun to reload after 1 minute? 15 seconds? 1 second? Just click the box and type in the number. Do you want waves to be twice as high? Click 2x on the wave height box. Decide that's two much? Click 'Normal'. Do you like seeing the 'Hull Integrity %'? Click 'On'. No? Click 'Off'. Do you like the RUB fatigue system? Hollywood 24 Hour? 8 Hour? No fatigue at all? Just click on the one you want.

D: Set the time compression parameters with a click. Hate leaving port in real time? Click 'Near Land; and set to 128x, or 1024x if you're brave. Set max TC for 4096 if you like.

E: It also assigns a name to each ship you sink, so you'll see it when you look at your career (also recorded in Commander)

F: Also, if you like, it will make you lose a crew member while in port (anything from 'Transferred to a new boat' to 'Killed in a bar fight' or 'Arrested for being drunk and disorderly'.


SHIII Commander puts a huge amount of formerly complicated tasks at your fingertips. As I said, it can change almost anything, or nothing...your choice.

robj250 04-25-06 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
SHIII Commander does exactly nothing...until you ask it to.

With it you can randomise your crew names (and your Captain's name) one at a time, or all together. It lets you:

A: Manage your crew. It takes you to a special screen that lets you give out extra medals and qualifications. It lets you promote or demote crew members at your choice.

B: Look at your Captain's life and career. It tells you when and where he was born, and after he retires it tells you about the rest of his career and life. It also retires him after a random amount of patrols...but only if you want it too.

C: Set the parameters of the game: Do you want the deck gun to reload after 1 minute? 15 seconds? 1 second? Just click the box and type in the number. Do you want waves to be twice as high? Click 2x on the wave height box. Decide that's two much? Click 'Normal'. Do you like seeing the 'Hull Integrity %'? Click 'On'. No? Click 'Off'. Do you like the RUB fatigue system? Hollywood 24 Hour? 8 Hour? No fatigue at all? Just click on the one you want.

D: Set the time compression parameters with a click. Hate leaving port in real time? Click 'Near Land; and set to 128x, or 1024x if you're brave. Set max TC for 4096 if you like.

E: It also assigns a name to each ship you sink, so you'll see it when you look at your career (also recorded in Commander)

F: Also, if you like, it will make you lose a crew member while in port (anything from 'Transferred to a new boat' to 'Killed in a bar fight' or 'Arrested for being drunk and disorderly'.


SHIII Commander puts a huge amount of formerly complicated tasks at your fingertips. As I said, it can change almost anything, or nothing...your choice.

So should I install it now Steve, right after the RUb1.45 activation Before I instal any other mods? Where do I get it from? Robert

Sailor Steve 04-25-06 11:36 AM

Install it any time you like. Mods don't affect it, and it doesn't affect mods. It simply lets you make individual changes with a click. Some of the changes are the same as some mods make, some of them aren't.

The key here is that it won't affect anything you don't want it to.

robj250 04-25-06 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
Install it any time you like. Mods don't affect it, and it doesn't affect mods. It simply lets you make individual changes with a click. Some of the changes are the same as some mods make, some of them aren't.

The key here is that it won't affect anything you don't want it to.

where do I get it? Never Mind I found v2.3 in subsimns downloads. Robert

Sailor Steve 04-25-06 11:56 AM

NO! Don't use 2.3! Well, you can, but 2.5 is much improved.

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=51674

At the bottom of JSCones' post he has a direct link to 2.5. Also, the Combined Ship Pack, which is an add-on that lets you see several different paint schemes on the same merchants, at the same time. This was included in earlier versions, but is separate now because it's so big.

robj250 04-25-06 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
NO! Don't use 2.3! Well, you can, but 2.5 is much improved.

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=51674

At the bottom of JSCones' post he has a direct link to 2.5. Also, the Combined Ship Pack, which is an add-on that lets you see several different paint schemes on the same merchants, at the same time. This was included in earlier versions, but is separate now because it's so big.

Quote:

Well, it had already been done, I set my options in it, then I manually installed Augie64's RecManualMod, JCW_Intro, Sound Trainer, Removed the "GAME PAUSE", and then changed JCW's Intro screen and replaced it with Intro-q1. Tried to continue my career and the game crashed. I got the correct screens, but It crashed on the Initializing screen. Do you want me to uninstall SH3 Commander and get the latest one and then try again from when I was in port? Robert. Waiting impatiently :up:
I uninstalled that version and installed the latest version and now my rank has been reduced to Ensign????? How do I get my rank as Oberleutnant z. Sr. back? Also, I will install the addon?? Btw, what's this "roll back" thing? Robert

robj250 04-25-06 04:08 PM

Installed latest version of SH3 Commander and the addon
 
Hi Steve, Berry, U-bones. I run into something different when I installed RUB1.45. I get white dials at the bottom and a scale along the side. I don't know why that didn't show up the first time I used it. But anyway, things are running fine, I was able to change my rank back to what it was but I would still like to know what the "Roll Back" is for. Thanks a bunch guys. Now I just need to know what mods I do not have to install now because I would not like to lose the while dials (easier to read) but I can do without the scale on the side of the nav map. Another thing I have noticed is that the beginning theme does not start now, it goes directly to the menu. Oh, yes, I cannot get the gramophone to play anything. Robert.

robj250 04-25-06 04:27 PM

My planned installations in the future
 
Hi guys. Now as I mentioned, I am not sure now what I should install because I am launching through SH3 Commander v2.5. So, I'll mention them so you can tell me if I should not: NeuUZO&PeriV.2, Bow Fix VIIB (to get rid of the mast), Daily Contacts reports 1.01, Ave.Joe Torpedo+Deckgun speed-of-sound delay v1.2+ (as there are sounds in there that I want and I can delete the ones I don't want and add some that I do want), CourseSolver (don't know if I need that as there is already a compass around my sub in the TDC screen), Improved smoke v 1.1, Realistic VIIB/C Hull, RealDC_2, Improved Convoys and Bow Spray, the mod that deals with the "wake" my sub leaves. That will do for now. I will only install one at a time, so what should be next and what should I NOT install. I am only running at 29% realism because of my diseases (thought and breathing process). I believe it mentioned that with SH3 Commander, I can operate at "decks awash" is that correct? Robert.

Beery 04-25-06 04:27 PM

Reducing rank is a flaw in SH3 (the standard game) itself. If you buy a lot of stuff (new subs, equipment, etc.) during your early career the game may temporarily drop you down a rank. It may be that this happened and you didn't notice it until after you installed SH3 Commander. It's doubtful that SH3 Commander will cause the problem because it doesn't alter ranks at all. If you started the game using SH3 Commander you can undo all changes it made by just pushing the 'Rollback' button. This will bring you back to the game as it was before you installed SH3 Commander. You can do this after every session if you want.

All you really have to be careful of with SH3 Commander is that you don't install or uninstall other mods while SH3 Commander is enabled. Do a 'rollback' before adding or removing mods. The reason is that when you start the game via SH3 Commander it installs its own set of mods and tweaks based on your inputs in the SH3 Commander program. You must remove these (rollback) before adding or removing something that may conflict with the SH3 Commander mods. As far as I'm aware, SH3 Commander will work with any version of the game and with any mods.

Once you get used to it, you won't believe the positive difference SH3 Commander will make to your game. Just one example is the personnel file it generates. Not only will it give you a full listing of your commander's stats for his wartime career, but it will generate a full history for him, from birth until death, or if he survives the war, it will give his post-war biography until old age.

robj250 04-25-06 06:41 PM

Roll Back
 
So, when do I do a "roll Back"? after I have finished my patrol and back in base 'cause that's when I will add a new mod. Do I backup my career before doing the roll back? I'm not sure exactly what roll back is for? That has me confused. Robert.

Beery 04-25-06 07:10 PM

Re: Roll Back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250
So, when do I do a "roll Back"? after I have finished my patrol and back in base 'cause that's when I will add a new mod. Do I backup my career before doing the roll back? I'm not sure exactly what roll back is for? That has me confused. Robert.

Look at it this way: SH3 Commander is really a glorified mod installer. When you load the game via SH3 Commander, it looks at various game files and loads certain mods depending on the date of the current career, the boat type in use, and the flotilla in use. It also loads up certain tweaks that you chose in the SH3 Commander 'SH3 Options' menu. So it loads all these things into the game - and these things are installed just like an install program would install a mod - only every time you use SH3 Commander it installs a slightly different mod from its database of files. It installs these files and keeps a record of exactly what it has installed. When you do a 'rollback' what you're doing is uninstalling the SH3 Commander mod files - uninstalling the mod. This happens every time you launch the game via SH3 Commander - it uninstalls the previous mod and installs a new one to match the career situation. The Rollback feature simply enables you to uninstall all the SH3 Commander mods automatically, in case you want to install other mods.

Hope that explains it better.


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