Afghan Christian released; now he will die
 

The snakes have released him on 'formal' grounds,

.....obviously so he can be slaughtered in some back ally :roll:

Its their culture, you have to respect it.

Why should I respect something, that forces people to a certain religion? And yet, to kill the ones who want to choose their religion.

:nope:

You have to be tolerant, it would be ignorant to say our way of life is better than theirs. :rotfl:

Okay, I respect that it is like that. Let's remove all financial funding and troop presence. That we respect they are like that does not mean we must actively helpt them to stay like that. Nor must we make them strong so that they help in exporting their primitive habits to our homes. Sence of realism? Yes. Accepting that it is like that? Yes. Tolerate and embrace it, for it's own sake? No.

News from our Dutch neighbours: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/926

Quote: " Almost half the elected PvdA politicians in major Dutch cities where the PvdA is the largest party, such as Amsterdam and Rotterdam, are now Muslims. (...) The PvdA leader said their “political culture� is often incompatible with Dutch politics, because the immigrants “conduct politics according to the culture of their home countries, where clientelism is the norm"

Quote from article: "In many West European countries the parties of the Left are actively catering for the growing Muslim vote. The Left realizes that the Third World immigrants guarantee its power base because these immigrants moved to Western Europe attracted by the generous welfare benefits that the parties of the Left promote."

Utterly disgusting politics going on in f-d up W-Europe and Holland :hulk: But nobody can stop it !!! The lower classes rule. That's democracy at it finest, gentlemen. Allow every moron over 18 with a half brain, whose only interest is social welfare or monthly paycheck to pay off credit cards and mobile phone bills, to vote ! :roll:

I predict in 100 years time there will be very few places for a higher class Caucasian-European (let alone Arian :-j ) to live to his high standards.

I am thinking eventually ghettoes for them. The proces is already taking place in Dutch cities.

It defies the law of nature, I tell ya :know:

All this goes back to the bloody Germans who ruined Europe in the first half of the 20th century. That's the root of our misery. On the other hand, A European empire lead by fascist Germany wouldnt have hesitated to use an iron fist to keep Islam out :nope:

Okay, that was to a great extrent silly, yet entertaining I would hope :-j

The core of the problem is that everything has become interconnected:

Economy, politics, cultures, religions. It has become a gigantic globalized game of domino :roll:

http://www.bus2000.it/wallpaper/vario/images/domino.jpg

This is also symbolic:

http://www.fysikknett.no/hverdag/bilder/cardhouse.jpg

Hahahaha! That is the funniest thing I have read in a long while!

-S

Re: Afghan Christian released; now he will die
 

Well, he was about to be sentenced to death earlier. Would that have been better? You're always finding ways to criticize muslims.

I promise you I'll cheer for muslims as soon as they achieve something admirable, okay ? :P

I don't quite understand? That will never happen! Islam has brought down the entire Muslim society. You are talking about what used to be among the most powerful countries in the world until Islam brought them to their knees. Islam is a cult, not a religion. It in itself prevents admirable acts.

-S

PS. It is gods punishment to them that they be in the state that they are in.

Oh this is one of the stupidist things I've read on this forum lately. :down:

Tell that to the kids who are suffering in these "states" and anyway, why is this guy suffering if he is a Christian and follows the same God (I assume) is punishing them?

I am not talking about the guy. I am talking about Islam as a whole. I feel terrible for this guy that beleives what he beleives yet is going to be killed for it as soon as he walks out of that courthouse. That is just plain stupidity.

-S

PS. God blessed the west for a reason I think. Most likely to keep the world from complete Chaos.

Your putting on display the very same kind of "we can do no wrong because our religion is right" thinking that's being criticized in this thread. That's the problem with fundamentalism of any stripe: its tendency to allow one to rationalize any act as "good" if it can be said to be done in God's name.

How do youknow the christian God is the "correct" one? How do you even know God exists? And supposing he does, who are you to interpret his will or what he is blessing and why?

The West has only come to the fore pretty recently so I'd say its a little early to assume we're blessed let alone to try and divine any meaning from that; especially given that we weren't even the one's to invent christianity (which began in the Middle East).

Are you smoking something? Did you bother to read my posts? Please re-read my post before you accuse me of crap.

-S

PS. I don't care if he converted to Bhuddism. He should not be killed for it.

Read your posts and re-read them again. The comment I quoted, along with this one "PS. It is gods punishment to them that they be in the state that they are in", are exactly what I'm talking about.

You're assuming having troops there is helping them (the extremists) permeate their own culture. IMO, Western presence (especially when 'helping' Muslims govern) is certainly the greatest threat to fundamentalists. There's a reason the fundamentalists try to blow us up, and it's not because we're helping them. Abandoning financial and military support to Afghanistan now would simply be abandoning it to the extremists. No matter how bad you want to build a fence around every Islamic country and not let westerners in or Muslims out, it ain't gonna happen...

Oh, and as you may have noticed I don't follow what seems to be the common wisdom on this board that every Muslim is an extremist.

Not so sure. Hitler admired the Muslims, for their unscrupulousness to use whatever force or tool is needed to take over control in foeign cultures. Islam and fascism is very close to each other, the beylong to the same kind of social theories and poltiical systems. I could easily imagine a Nazi Germany cooperating with Islam from a position of thinking nthat it is oin control of that partnership, like the EU today think it is on control concerning the turkey question.

another "What if?" scenario: who would habe been the stronger faction in such a relationship: the Nazis, or Islam?

that Europe acts weak in regard to islam is becasue the Nazis messed up Europe 70 years ago, I do not fully agree to. Remember that Europe had recovered from that, it gained a leveol of freedom and peace and material welath that tops everything mankind has ever seen in millenias before, in any part of the world. But still - or because of that? - it falls to an aggressive attempt to take it over from outside.

In sports you loose your abilities if you do not train, or do not compete. In psychology, you unlearnb, if you do not prqactice, and do not keep your trust in what had been püroven by experience before, if that experience is not challenged every couple of times and then can proove that it still is valid. We have had 60years of peacfe in europe - unique in European history. Two generations had not been haunted by war. And this has crippled our mental attidue or ability of resist6ence, of fighting, in a wide sense of the word. Our wealth made us weak, lulled our reason, made our muscles soft and untrained. now that we are challenged by Islam, me learn that we are not in shape and lack the fitness to do the sprints and lack the breath to compete in the endurance race. and we are old. Ever saw a 50 year old competing at the Olympics?

The problem is - you assume too much.

The second problem is, how do you think we are not blessed when country's like the US are the richest the world have 'ever' seen? Call it like you want it but no country in history has displayed as much wealth as the US - ever! Any history text book can show you this. From the cities to the highways to the massive middle class (which is dwindling I think) - the wealth is immeasurable.

Next inaccuracy - the West, namely the English, Spanish, French... have dominated the world for exactly how long? How many years do you want to go back and still see these same countries dominating the world? Want to add the US in there later on? This is no short time like you describe - so where did this idea come from exactly?

Last - show me a Muslim country that isn't 'Third World'. I personally can't name even one.

No one on this Earth can do no wrong. I am not quite sure where you get this idea from either which is why this sounds more like an accusation directed at me that is baseless and without fact. Matter of fact, your whole post is patronizing, which is why I am asking what it is exactly you are smoking?

-S