Sea Wolves - Submarines on Hunt
 

Has anyone seen this new download for Silent Hunter 111 called Sea Wolves - Submarines on Hunt?? It claims to enhance the game with improved graphics, sounds, missions and scripts..among others. It costs about £20 as a download..

Click on the pic:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3...ycotsig8hg.gif

Ok, let´s see. The clock is 16:32, where I live.... If I check this thread again at 18:00, there should be a full-scale flame war going on... :hmm:


CAN´T WAIT!!! :rock:

X1 would I buy it NO :nope: its a con ripping off other people's work boycot it :/\chop

the quote is found at this link
http://dominicobaggio.proboards21.co...ead=1131811480

Re: Sea Wolves - Submarines on Hunt
 

Since no one has come out and said it, ill say it as concisely with as few words as possible.

The Expansion / download to which you refer to is a collection of mods that they most likley just got off the internet, ( most of them made by people here); repackaged for commercial profit.

There is nothing in that "sea wolves" that you cannot obtain from here, absolutley free. Again, because they are mods made by the community, not X1 software. Hence you'll see alot of signiture pics like this one:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3...ycotsig8hg.gif

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:/\chop

I see the content of this pirate mod :ahoy: :arrgh!:

Rub and IUB as a big compilations of free mods are better, very superior , than this payware compilation of stolen mods. :down:

with rub , iub and some other mods over, nobody needs this payware mod.

:o :huh: :hulk: :damn: :/\: :/\!! :/\chop :dead:

Sea Wolves - Submarines on Hunt
 

OK!! Thanks everyone for the info..I'll steer well clear of Sea Wolves..

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Before you do that, launch a couple of acoustic torpedos. :up:

And yet, when a call went out for exactly what unauthorized mods were on Seawolves all went silent.
But, I would never consider the First Seawolves either as I like modding. I think RUB is way off and modded the hect out of it.
However, for those that do not mod many have said they liked Seawolves.
But, Spulman, if you choose to add mods there are many people that will help you here to work through any problems and better than any commercial project. You get better help on SH3 from people here than from UBI as well.

But, the next Seawolves is a totaly different add on. Many new ships and campaigns including the Black Sea 30 Flotilla, 23rd Flotilla out of Salamis, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau operation Berlin, Norway Juno, many destroyers and cruisers as well as merchant ships and even AI subs; British Italian and U-Boats (No wolfpacks though, darn!)

Wulfmann

Below, HMS Arethusa class CL, Twins in operation Berlin and a British T class sub. The port is Salamis, Greece and the U-baot is the foreground is AI, mine is in front of the pen. I have been beta testing and advisong Seawolves but do not work for them.

[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...Arethusa-1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...nn/Twins-1.jpg

[/img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...nn/HMSsub1.jpg

[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...rt-is-this.jpg[/img]

And how did they make the AI subs move? I guess they figured out that themselves and did the proper hex-editing if they are going to sell the add-on. You can ask them what files they hex-edited and in what way to make sure that they did the whole thing themselves.

These guys who ripped of the modders are now being ripped of themselves. <Mod edit: That was a serious no-no! JCC> :arrgh!:

You know, it's just not even tempting :nope: , what with RUb, IUb, SH3 Commander and tons of other great mods available for free. :up:

Sea Wolves :nope:

The best thing to do is give it the :/\chop

You know, it's just not even tempting :nope: , what with RUb, IUb, SH3 Commander and tons of other great mods available for free. :up:[/quote]

I agree personally, but many people would prefer to spend a few bucks, click install and play.

I found a way to have two separate SH3s on my better 64Bit PC. I was running the beta Seawolves Mediterranean on my smaller one but it added so much action and ships it ran slower. So, I put it on my 64 bit but no way was I going to upset my personally crafted version.
I have however, "borrowed" the ships I prefer and put them into my version.
I am giving free advise to them and feel that is OK.

Oh, and you were right about TC and radar AC. I ran some test after you said that (and I wrongly disputed it) Non radar planes will stop 1024 but radar planes can be avoided at 1024. But, I also tested 512 and 256 and there was no difference in my game. Now I spend my time diving from AC in 1943 sometimes 6-8 times in a day!!! Without the radar detection improvement mod there would be no chance so that is a big help!

Wulfmann

Hum...sounds like they might have used sergbuto's AI U-Boat mod without permission. :hmm:

One can also check whether Type VII and Type II subs have water reflections from conning towers or any of new DDs have multiple skins.

I asked directly about this and quoted this and the other Serg post by email directly to X-1.

Here is what (my interpretation) the reply says.

UBI owns the rights to these files. X-1 does not, I do not, Serg does not Berry does not etc!
Ubi has not enforced its copyright allowing people to modify the files and share them.
But, they still own the rights! You do not!!!

Ubi has authorized one group to modify their copyrighted files for an authorized add-on to SH3. X-1; and no one else. Are you still with me?

That said, X-1 is not using Serg’s files but is using the same hex editing techniques to make many new ships.
Are you now saying when someone makes a mod the method they used to modify a UBI owned file is now owned by the modder??? That UBI does not have the right to authorize and add on???

WE all can mod and add mods and share them freely. What would happen if UBI got pissed at all this “I modded it and its mine and the way I did it is only mine too� attitude and took legal action to shut down any site that offers mods to SH3?

X-1 states they have done their own editing. I have personally requested they alter things that were, IMO inaccurate. He would sometimes resend them in hours. So when did Serg jump in and do that and it got ripped in the process??
Please.
Serg has been a great benefit to our community and added some neat things that I have in my version and I am grateful to all the modders for their personal contributions to making SH3 much better than it was from UBI.
Most of us here desire a personalized version to our taste and people like Serg have made that possible.
However, all these files still belong to UBI, like it or not (Has anyone copyrighted their mod, bet UBI will have something to say if you do!)
They have given X-1 permission to modify them for a payware expansion package. They have not given anyone but X-1 permission to do so.
Our little group is a small minority of those that have purchased SH3. Many would like a new expansion, a career in the Black Sea or Salamis in Greece or increased Mediterranean activity with Italian and British cruiser task forces slugging it out.
The fact this is not what you and I prefer does not mean SH3 as a whole does not benefit from more people wanting to buy SH3 because of this extra new add on or the many that do not want to mod shouldn’t expand their enjoyment.
You do not have to buy it but insisting others should not because a legally authorized expansion contains mods altered in the same fashion as those done by unauthorized people.
Serg only asked to be informed. He did not claim they used his mods and inferring that is, IMO, wrong.
I think anyone that has had anything stolen should state it right now. Don’t be a pansy, say so!!
If it is true you have nothing to fear, right?
If you make false and liable accusations, well you on your high horse should be ready to answer for them.
I am historic advisor and beta tester and am not part of X-1, ergo I get no financial benefit, nada.
If you have a real accusation, I would like to hear it.
If you only want to insinuate and vaguely accuse without facts I will call you out and demand you back up your claims just like I took this right to X-1 and asked if they were doing the editing themselves. They say they are, Give me facts to proof otherwise!

Wulfmann

Well Legaly there is a fine line in modding and ownership, Now as i understand it, modding existing game files does not = ownership of said files or changes. But adding totaly new stuff does (like making a brand new ship with its own new skin, model etc). The creator at the very least does own the skin and model (though perhaps not the rest).


How ever at the very least it is rather impolite to grab mods other people spent alot of time working on free of charge with out even contacting them, and then turing around and trying to sell them. X1 did indeed at one point do this, and the backlash from the community is as you see still felt. So people are still very suspicious of X1.