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UglyMowgli 01-29-06 09:28 AM

Ships size problems in DW : CdG for example.
 
An MS member (bobterrius) take a look at the ship size and found that we Frenchie habve the smallest carrier in the world :D
http://terrius.free.fr/compa%204.jpg
The Charles de Gaulle in DW have the size of a big tug boat :rotfl: :rotfl:

Apocal 01-29-06 10:02 AM

Damn... RoW operates some small carriers. Really stretches the term right there.

OKO 01-29-06 10:09 AM

In fact, CDG IS the smallest nuclear carrier in the world ... but not the smallest ship.

After the Amethyste, modelised as the louder submarine of the game and the poorest nuke, we have now a carrier sized like a FFG......
I tought DW was realistic ... even for french platforms.

XabbaRus 01-29-06 10:17 AM

Yea I did a check and the CDG is only a bit shorter than the Kuznetsov.

Hmmm me thinks I'll have to look at quite a few of the models.

Need to get Nimitz finished first.

Then the CVF which has changed its deck config AGAIN!!! :roll:

Then I can take a look at CDG and some other flat tops.

TLAM Strike 01-29-06 10:58 AM

You think that is f-cked up check out that German PTG the 'Gepard'. :huh:

OKO 01-29-06 11:25 AM

Hahaha, a ship for giants :lol:

http://okof4.free.fr/fichiers/DW/scr...iantgerman.jpg

very impressive gun isn't it ? :roll:

TLAM Strike 01-29-06 11:36 AM

The gun?!?! Hell those missile launchers must fire Scuds! :lol:

XabbaRus 01-29-06 11:47 AM

Boy am I going to be busy :)

Takeda Shingen 01-29-06 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKO
Hahaha, a ship for giants :lol:

http://okof4.free.fr/fichiers/DW/scr...iantgerman.jpg

very impressive gun isn't it ? :roll:

Now THAT'S a boat.

OKO 01-29-06 11:54 AM

I formally protest the fact germans have much bigger guns than french in DW.
not fair

:lol: :-j

JamesT73J 01-29-06 12:46 PM

"We're gonna need a bigger boat!"

bobterrius 01-29-06 01:19 PM

But own the smallest aircraft carrier of the world is an advantage.

Smaller means less detectable, and less recognizable in a task group.

And also it permits her to escap easily to the hellacious missile.

like here http://terrius.free.fr/rate%20.jpg



The rest of the story here

Kapitan 01-29-06 01:49 PM

french do make small reactors

looking at the naval buget last year they are still paying for the CDG infact only 2/3 of the debt has been paid which means the navy is nearing bankruptcy if it continues for another few years.

french have only slightly updated the surface fleet but the fleet remains old not obsolete it still has some very capible ships but its old.

OKO 01-29-06 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobterrius
But own the smallest aircraft carrier of the world is an advantage.

Smaller means less detectable, and less recognizable in a task group.

And also it permits her to escap easily to the hellacious missile.

like here

The rest of the story here


It's a confusion beetween the solution picture and show truth.
switch to show truth and you will see SS-N-27 are very effective against the CDG, even at long range.

Kapitan 01-29-06 02:16 PM

SS-N-19 or SS-N-22 aint gunna miss it likely

i havnt seen the CDG personaly but ive seen a cassard DD and she looks ok ballenced clean linesish just a bit old

bobterrius 01-29-06 02:37 PM

I have use this picture on a humoristic goal.

Only because this situation where the CDG has the height of a frigate make me laugh.

So I'm sorry if it isn't clear.

Moreover this picture date of one of my first game and I wasn't a good captain of ship.

OKO 01-29-06 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain
french do make small reactors

looking at the naval buget last year they are still paying for the CDG infact only 2/3 of the debt has been paid which means the navy is nearing bankruptcy if it continues for another few years.

french have only slightly updated the surface fleet but the fleet remains old not obsolete it still has some very capible ships but its old.

french navy is on the way to be modernised
old link, but this sheme was respected and give you a picture of the objective to 2015 =>
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/french_navy.htm

the latest boats commissioned =>
http://www.armarisgroup.com/uk/pdf/mistral_uk.pdf
not really that obsolete ;)

I don't know what you mean about bankrupcy, but you probably misunderstood something.
something like budget restrictions.
The disease of our army was, from the end of cold war, each time gvnmt needed money, they were pick it in the armee budget.
now it seem over, from near a decade.
Political choices and budgets are more realistic and coherent, globals, not just addition here or there.

I hope one day we could have an european armee anyway.

Kapitan 01-29-06 02:58 PM

you have a reserve declaration of bankruptcy is when there is $0 or minus numbers coming out.

those new ships do sound good too.

at least everyone is being upgraded now days

TLAM Strike 01-30-06 06:36 PM

I'm resizing the CDG, is this correct looking or is it too big?

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4135/frenchcvn4nf.jpg

Kapitan 01-30-06 06:40 PM

still dont look right

the CDG is:
858FT long
211FT wide
36,600 tonnes full load

invincible class is:

677 feet long
90 feet wide
20,600 tonnes full load


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