Religion, who cares?
 

Who really believes in the fairy tales of religion, weither it is, Catholic, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Islam, Zionism etc.

Zionism is a religion?

Really?

Fascinating!

:shifty:

is it the Jewish religion and Zionism is a religion

No more than Marxism is a religion. It's true that you can use a weak defintion of the word "religion" to mean "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion" but then you should list all the "ism's" in this world.

Judaism is a religion in the most elementary sense of the word. Zionism is not. Never has been. Hence there are people who are totally aetheistic believers and practitioners of Zionism.

Zionism is a political movement, and just to confirm something Avon Lady, is it true many Zionists were marxists??? Read somewhere about the early kibbutz having pics of Marx and Engels around, damn can't recall where I read that quote. :hmm:

I can not participate in this poll because of the limited choices.

I am not a religious man, in terms of church-going, but I believe in a divine creator who works in mysterious ways. I also think it's generally good for people everywhere to go to church and hear a message of peace, heaven, social behavior and basically learn about the bigger scheme of things.

I however take religious books and the often shameful orthodox stuff that comes with it with a bag of salt. It often works out wrong. Religion (as in sects) bonds small communities, sure, but separates people in the bigger picture. The world has become a global village. We must acknowledge religions are a cultural phenomenon and being born a Christian, a muslim or whatever, is primarily a matter of geographical coincidence.

To wrap it up:

• * 1 creator of heaven (in whatever shape or form nobody knows), earth & mankind.
  * Religious differences, hate and fanatism equals (=) human bogus.

It's basically simple. We really don't need the (entire) books for that.

Plenty of Zionists were Marxists. We still have a few such oddballs around. Plenty were capitalists. Plenty were conservatives. Plenty were liberals. Plenty were religious. Plenty were secular.

I think a link would be in order at this time.

No.
I have no faith in any recognised sense of the word. There might be a 'God' but whatever the case, no petty smallminded view in human doctrine can fill the gap reserved for truth. Call it what you will, but to my mind all religion and so called 'holy' beliefs are nothing more than a panacea for the great unwashed masses.

What we humans perceive as God(s) is just the Universe its self, and (possibly) beings with a higher level of technology/higher level of consciousness (like noncorporeal beings) and that doesn’t need to be worshiped, respected and understood yes but not worshiped.

But that’s not to say Religion is a bad thing, if it helps you to understand your place in the universe, give you guidance and respect for your fellow man then its doing good.

:) More 2000 year old fairy tales again????

You western world people have forgot about religion. Religion was always nearby, it creataed the traditions (like christmas). How many of You celebrate christmas ? I dont have to ask, sure almost every one. Why then ? Because of decorations ? Because of friends ? Ofcourse no. You celebrate these days because of tradition. Because You growed in this since You remember. another thing is that either this is traditional celebration or not, in western world it lost its sense. This is not shopping, Santa Claus is not Disney cartoon movies product. He is religion product, the same like many many things waht You meet every day, and You dont even know about it.

Have a brake, have a coca cola, my friend.

As Marx said, "religion is the opiate of the masses." When someone uses god to control others it sickens me. People should be able to make up their own minds about god and nature and not follow the teachings of idiots like this. :nope:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4427144.stm

I think the poll title is far too provocative to evoke an objective response.

Myself, I'm against any dogma and religious organization. But I welcome spiritualism, whatever form it may take.
Quakers are kinda cool, too :hmm:

Vanity of Vanites ALL is Vanity...No thing new under the sun.I do NOT believe in religion...I believe.

I agree with that. Personally I don´t believe in any gods or any kind of religions.

No.

The word "holy" does not exist in my repertoire. :) "God" or "miracle" are placeholders only that are meant to hide the gap in our understanding and knowledge of what man is, what cosmos is, and what man's relation to it really is. But believing is not knowing, that is why such concepts only by random chance can hit a valid aspect of our subjective perception of reality. I see no need in doing so, and it holds no chances and no comfort.

In the end all that space that we consider to see "out there" is just our own minds.

"Die Wirklichkeit wird weniger ge-funden, als vielmehr er-funden." Glasersfeld)

I don like coke my friend.

Just one thing i wish to sceptic like You. Try to find anything about gent with surname "Pio". When You read then we can talk about religion.

Another thnig is about mr.Marx. I had to eat this comunistic crap of them for few years, and they still lost. Guess why ?

Overall if You wish to discuss about God, religion and more. Bring then some really arguments not coca cola my friend. And if You are trying to be smart, then answere Yourself what do You really know about todays popular person of Santa Claus. Didnt You ever try to find out who was he ? And where did he comes from ? Why him ?
Is easy to staring with ignorance, and say take a break friend. But You have no arguments. Empty words and Your subjective feelings.
Thats is not much, actually this is nothing.

You dont believe, all right no probs. You don go to the church, well doesnt matter for me. But if You are trying to discuss about anything then bring with You some arguments, and first of all have the knowledge about the subject.
;)

Religion, who cares?
 

The poll is so poorly worded that it hardly leaves anybody who is serious about his religion a choice.
You could as well have asked: "do you vote to be considered stupid by me or not?"
Usually the formulation of polls like this - we've had more - characterizes the knowledge and objectivity of the author more than anything else. Calling "Zionism" a religion just proves that point.

Were the question: "Religion, who cares?" I would have voted: "Yes!".
I am a convinced (Protestant) Christian and aware of the cultural luggage it provides me with. I stand in a Western European 'Judeo-Christian' tradition of which I am proud. I am also very aware that humans are by definition religious creatures anyway. I accept the limitations of the human mind to understand the whole creation. I also recognize the challenge for us humans to learn, educate and think...

Abraham, is this guy asking me to write another essay...? :rotfl:

Grom, maybe telephone with coca cola company and learn what they have to do with Santa Claus. You obviously lack the needed info to see the hidden irony in my initial comment.