Korean air 007 should it have been shot down?
 

a korean air lines departing alaska i belive was shot down over the sakalin islands in eastern russia some time back in the 70's i think it was (bit sketchy on this bit)

the aircraft apparently drifted off course for no reason and the result was that KE007 was shot down 60 seconds before entering international airspace.

should KE 007 have been shot down?


my view:

obvious but;

yes she should have the pilot made no mayday calls to say he was off course nor did he attempt to correct the situation and nether did he head soviet warnings to alter course.

i belive the russians made the correct choice in shooting down KE007 as it was more than likely a spy plane working for US inteligence flying over known enforced restricted airspace.

KE007 was shot down by MIG 23 fighters two missiles were fired at the 747 and no one survived.

yet should the captain have made the mayday call he could have been escorted to near by vladivostok international airport and after an inspection could have proceaded on his was escorted of course.

he chose not to do this and there fore ignored warnings from both aircraft and ground that unless he changed course action would be taken and it was.

KE007 was shot down after violating enforced restricted and terratorial airspace which for any civil or forign jet is against international law as a country has a right to claim sovrign airspace and sea space.

KE007 was shot down less than one minuet from international airspace i agree with the shooting down of this aircraft.

lets face it america would have done the same

Sounds like you are trying to stir the pot Kapitain :roll:

More like stirring brain neurons that have been dormant for a few decades. :damn:

This ain't gonna end pretty.

But I bet it'll end soon... :roll:

before we go any further i want to say that i emplore that no flaming is intended in this posts just honest opinions and then a debate.


if it does get out of hand il ask a moderator to shut it down i hope it wont were all decent folk so im sure we can keep level heads

p.s wheres skybirds essays when you need them

Re: Korean air 007 should it have been shot down?
 

Do you have any evidence for this belief?

the fact the plane dog legged rather than fly in straight line gives some indication and the fact the aircraft was notified many times by russian controlers and that they knew it was restricted and enforced air space.

where is not the proof ?

What about the Iranian air liner that was shot down by a US cruiser in the mid 1980s? Or the French air liner shot down by Israel in 1973? Both of those had ignored warnings too; In the US case, they weren't aware that it was an air liner until it had been shot down, the the Israelite case, they were trying to fire warning shots I believe, but hit the plane by mistake.

I'm not trying to add to a flame war, just trying to get rid of my 'Sparky' avatar, which I have at this time. :(

Come on. That Sparky avatar isn't so bad except for the fact that you look like you have been out in the sun way too long. :D

well in all cases violation of restricted airspace should lead to any plane being shot down the sakahlin island were and still are a very sensative area the russians do not tollorate any violation into that airspace and its well documented throughout the world.

violation of airspace is and can be seen as an act of war

The worst thing about the avatar is the name - sounds like the ship's mascot :rotfl:. Better than Bilge Rat or the dreaded hooded medic though. :know:

OH DEAR GOD - It just happened! Talk about irony. :o

(I just got 'promoted' to medic, now I miss being Sparky :rotfl: ).

I will post until it is gone.

In the three airliner situations, maybe we should consider knowledge of the planes' identities. Did the Soviets know what they were firing at? I have heard about this incident, but not the details. The Americans did not know they were shooting at a passenger plane until the wreckage was found.

What if these would have been seen as acts of war? :roll: , http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/engli.../1101979762207 , http://english.people.com.cn/english...412_67519.html , http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1195150&C=europe , http://www.baltictimes.com/art.php?art_id=13608 , nice :up:

Were are these people? http://www.rescue007.org/passengers.htm Were they operating the INTEL eguipment or are they just made up? http://www.rescue007.org/grenfells.htm Wouldnt want to argue with their families about this.. :-?

An SU 15 attacked KAL 007, not Mig-23´s.

And It was a terrible mistake. The plane could be forced to land, but was shot down without proper warning (no hand signals from the fighter pilot, no tracer bullets).

New evidence suggest that malfunction of navigation aids set KAL 007 off course.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/...d/kal/kal1.htm

Did the 747 ever acknowledge it was entering restricted airspace or send a mayday? It’s possible that their radio was out or the crew was unconscious due to loss of oxygen. :hmm:

All that proves is there was a civilian aircrew made an error in navigation that was subsequently corrected, hence the dog leg straight on to their destination. As for notification from Russian ground control who knows? There is no evidence

The US has the most advanced surveillance capabilities in the world, there would be no need to use a foreign owned airliner full of civilians to spy on the Russians.

Mr. Schlossberg runs a very informative website. And I voted no.

PD

well radar and communication recordings are still held by the russians.

KE007 was observed by the russians as being wildly off course the crew would have been warned no doubt about it russia wouldnt go willy nilly shoot down a plane for the sake of it there would have to be good reason.

the pilot who shot down KE007 did admit some years back on T.V that he did try to establish hand contact with the pilots but was unable to due to the dark.

america uses survailance in real unorthadox ways its not unusual for civilians to get caught up in the mess because america uses civilians to thier advantage some times.