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ThePastor 11-07-05 04:26 AM

Torpedo Damage
 
I'm trying to find a way to modify the damage of my torpedoes, just to tweak it a little. I read in one post that damage is universal across all the torps, and that sucks if that's the case, but, still, where is that universal damage amount? I have SH 3 File Analyzer, Commander, and Inspector, but none of them seem to have that which I need. I saw mention of 'nuclear torpedoes', but couldn't find any more information than that. One other topic I saw is this one:

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36145

But I didn't find anything useful there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Marhkimov 11-07-05 04:30 AM

Actually, this is a job for either SH3 Inspector or SH3 File Analyzer.

ThePastor 11-07-05 04:28 PM

Okay... well, I have both of them, as I said.

SH 3 Inspector has a 'Torps' page, but that allows you to change range, speed, depth, turn radius and suchlike; not damage.

SH 3 File Analyzer can open a number of files, including torpedo.sim, but within none of those files have a found anything regarding the damage of torpedoes.

Am I missing something? If so, what? Do I need a different .rul file for SH 3 File Analyzer? Is it within a text .cfg file somewhere? Does anyone actually know?

Marhkimov 11-07-05 04:33 PM

I'm pretty sure the setting is called impulse. Default is at 2000, but no one has ever found a need to change it. But if you want to, you can go ahead.

ThePastor 11-07-05 04:39 PM

Impulse is damage? But, in Physics, impulse is related to acceleration. I guess it could be the acceleration of the shockwave from the explosives...

Thanks.

rulle34 11-07-05 04:42 PM

The file for changing explosive power is the "Torpedo.zon"
There is no rule for that file in TT's SH3 File analyzer. You need to do some "traditional" hexediting.
I wish there was a rule for that file, cos it would be nice to set different explosive charges for different torpedotypes. I think the T1 was more powerful than the T2 for i.e.

Marhkimov 11-07-05 04:48 PM

hmm... interesting

ThePastor 11-07-05 04:49 PM

I feared as much. If only these Ubisoft buggers had properly documented their data files, this wouldn't be such a bloody chore...

Marhkimov 11-07-05 04:53 PM

Well, someone can always write a new set of rules for the torpedo ZON files.

Der Teddy Bar 11-07-05 06:03 PM

The issue is not the torpedo, but the ships.

ThePastor 11-07-05 10:06 PM

For me, it'd be easier to tweak the damage of the couple types of torpedoes I actually use than to change the armor and HP values of about forty different ships. Any sucker....er.... noble human being want to volunteer to right the .rul file?

Der Teddy Bar 11-08-05 12:20 AM

Was not aware that anyone had been able to change the maximum hit points for a ship?

Jungman 11-08-05 01:26 AM

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For me, it'd be easier to tweak the damage of the couple types of torpedoes
Very easy to do. I do not remember what order they are in but trial and error again. :D

I did this for a 'non released' mod to get people to use the slow ass electric torps in game instead of the most effective fast steam torp by reducing the steam torp damage down. (Not real but the game does not really avoid visible steam torps like it was in real life..or they were hard to get?).

Each torpedo has its own individual damage called MinEFF_XXXX and MaxEFF_XXXX. You can set each one different in the Torpedo.zon file. I think there are 11 torpedo, one is not used in game. values are in that backward Float Integer single point.

Impulse in Torpedo.sim is the simulated shock wave to rock your boat/ship , not damage. In it you can set the 'Impulse' radius effect too.

EDIT for Clarity: Not to be confused with the Blast radius which is in the Torpedo.zon.

rogerbo 11-08-05 01:50 AM

We had this long time ago. There are some threads in this forum about. As Jungman did point it out the Min and Max Eff are the power of the Torpedos you also can change the Range of the Explosion. The total HP of a ship is changed the same wai as the HP of your Sub, it's either in the .sim or zon (don't remember right now ) at the bottom of the file.

Marhkimov 11-08-05 01:52 AM

damage is most certainly always in zon files

rogerbo 11-08-05 02:00 AM

Here is a link to a thread http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...605&highlight=
in here i have posted a torpedo.zon file with which you can Sink ANY Ship with 1 Hit :rotfl: How ever there is a warning to it You MUST be over 300M away from the target (sure once because the Torpedo is a dud below that range but also you would blow yourselfe out of the water with this)

Jungman 11-08-05 02:02 AM

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Was not aware that anyone had been able to change the maximum hit points for a ship?
Yes, even your own sub.zon to get your "Hull" to last longer for a fun death experience.


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Sink ANY Ship with 1 Hit
That is your infamous 'Nuclear Torpedo" made awhile ago, Rogerbo. :cool:

Der Teddy Bar 11-08-05 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jungman
Quote:

Was not aware that anyone had been able to change the maximum hit points for a ship?
Yes, even your own sub.zon to get your "Hull" to last longer for a fun death experience.


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Sink ANY Ship with 1 Hit
That is your infamous 'Nuclear Torpedo" made awhile ago, Rogerbo. :cool:

Can someone 'show' me how? Pretty please :rotfl:

rogerbo 11-08-05 03:04 AM

Teddy Bär, it's easy but Dangerous as it is a secret weapon of the Marine only available for super ueber Kaleuns. LOL
but if you wan't to know, change the MinEff and MaxEff to aprox.
8000 and change the range to aprox. 300 - 400 Meters. Now all in that radius get's hit by that torpedo, if you attack a Convoy this will blow up only 1 ship as they are further apart then the 300m so you would need to increase the Range, however the disadvantage of this is clear as biger the range as biger your Shoting distance MUST be or you sink yourself LOL, Do make the changes slowly as i experienced some CTD when i did enter wrong datas in the .zon file.

Der Teddy Bar 11-08-05 05:17 AM

rogerbo,
I was actually after the ships :up:


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