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OT: fresh pics of U32 (new German U212-A AIP Sub)

Found in another forum. Just thinking you guys may be interested :yep: :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/cb0678b0.jpg

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The submarine U 32 of the German Navy is moored to the jetty at the German Navy submarine base of Eckernfoerde, northern Germany, on Monday, Oct 17, 2005. The warship with its fuel cell propulsion ranks as the most modern submarine in the world and will be put in operation on Wednesday, Oct. 19. (AP Photo/Heribert Proepper)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/44e1cd53.jpg

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A submariner climbs a ladder next to the covered and top secret part of the fuel cell propulsion, left, of the German Navy submarine U32 whilst moored to the jetty at the German Navy submarine base of Eckernfoerde, northern Germany, Monday, Oct 17, 2005. The warship with its fuel cell propulsion ranks as the most modern submarine in the world and will be put in operation on Wednesday. (AP Photo/Heribert Proepper)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/a5d76975.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/47cb98fb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...d/1735dd0c.jpg

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Michael Bornholt, commander of the submarine U 32 of the German Navy, looks through the navigation periscope in the operation center of the U 32, when it is moored to the jetty at the German Navy submarine base of Eckernfoerde, northern Germany, on Monday, Oct 17, 2005. The warship with its fuel cell propulsion ranks as the most modern submarine in the world and will be put in operation on upcoming Wednesday. (AP Photo/Heribert Proepper)

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Stefanie Lange, Communication Petty Officer of submarine U 31 of the German Navy is pictured in the operation centre inside the vessel while it is docked at the German Navy submarine base in Eckernfoerde, northern Germany October 19, 2005. The submarine with its fuel cell propulsion ranks is noted as the most modern submarine in the world. REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch

in that first pic, it looks no bigger than a bus.

Sm - cool photos - thanks. :sunny:

Does the torp tube photo reveal the latest German 'secret weapon' - manualy steered torpedos ? :hmm:

Nice pin-ups, and very pleased to see chip consumption - a 'healthy' disregard for pc health issues. :up:

The unused plate is a sinister confirmation of the fact that the sailor controlling that torp will be late for his meal -
if indeed he ever returns. (No reflection on the grub cook !) :o

From the Brass smirk is the follicaly challenged politico appealing for the return of his toupee ? :oops: :o
Anyways it shows a healthy disregard for those we empower. ;)

nice pics of those girls i mean :D

:o Fantastic pics of the sharpest looking modern Diesel submarine. :cool:

One near the bottom you posted would make nice wallpaper. So sad so small... :(

:cool: Thanks for sharing the pics of this awesome sub.

Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by Black_Dingo

in that first pic, it looks no bigger than a bus.

http://www.marine.de/02DB07000000000...2)-640x459.jpg
MaÃŸe (LÃ¤nge / Breite / Tiefgang): 56m / 7,0m / 6,0m
(Length, Width, Depth under surface)

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/type_212/
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/..._U212,,00.html
http://www.marine.de/01DB07000000000...99K5A242INFODE

http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/Proje...mb_travego.jpg
Mercedes-Benz Travego. Lenght with 49 seats: 13,85 Meter.

http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/di.../exterieur.jpg
Airbus A380. Lenght: 72,7 m

I have a model of the Type 212 but I think I need to start again.

I think the stern isn't steep enough on my model.

I'll post pics so you can comment.

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Originally Posted by Pigfish

:o Fantastic pics of the sharpest looking modern Diesel submarine. :cool:

But it is not a diesel sub, it's Hydrogen cell powered, it drives only with electric motors, therefore it is almost noiseless :)

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

But it is not a diesel sub, it's Hydrogen cell powered, it drives only with electric motors, therefore it is almost noiseless

Not quite!

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Originally Posted by www.naval-technology.com

The propulsion system combines a conventional system consisting of a diesel generator with a lead acid battery, and an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system, used for silent slow cruising, with a fuel cell equipped with oxygen and hydrogen storage. The system consists of nine PEM (polymer electrolyte membrane) fuel cells, providing between 30 and 50kW each.

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

But it is not a diesel sub, it's Hydrogen cell powered, it drives only with electric motors, therefore it is almost noiseless :)

I think, this is not correct. As far as I understand U212-A has a 'hybrid-propultion-system'. The screwback propeller is driven by a Permasyn Engine (less [or maybe no?] cavitation). This engine can get engergie from two different systems: For max speed it is driven by batterie, which has to be charged from time to time by a 'advanced' (silenced) dieselgenerator. Snorchel times are greadly redused. For low speed there is the Hydrogen cell engine, which produces only clean water as 'Exhaust gases'.

http://www.duxu.de/marine/U-Boote/3b...iebsanlage.gif
http://www.duxu.de/marine/U-Boote/3b...212/Diesel.gif http://www.hdw.de/bilder/schiffbau/brennstoffzelle.jpg
_________________http://www.duxu.de/marine/U-Boote/3b...T212/Motor.gif
Source: http://www.duxu.de/marine/U-Boote/3b...chnisches.html

www.naval-technology.com is wrong in this case, yesterday on German TV there was a long report about this sub and the HDW technicans said that the small diesel genrator is only use to recharge the batteries in case of technical breakdown of the power cell device and that there is no way to operate the screw directly by this diesel.

*Edit*
the blue pic above is the right pattern of the drive system

The diesel is used to *recharge* the batterie. So you have the possibility to drive longer distances... (as far as I understand this...)

Diesel engine still is main source for recharging batteries! And AIP is just to extend time underwater when batteries are out of juice.Also Hydrogen Oxygen cell engine is to power electrical devices.

I think for combat situation as long as undetected, you use the Hydrogen cells. For torpedo-evasion you switch to batterie.
Don't shure about ''travel-'times... :hmm: (can you use both or only the batteries...).

I gues they can manipulate all type of engines whatever way they want, when situation requiers. :yep:

normaly the diesel is just a generator the submarine works purely off of the battery id immagine the same sort of thing for this

The Diesel is very much only an emergency backup. They are not expected to "charge batteries" under normal conditions during a trip, for all energy for board systems and engine is not coming from batteries, but directly from the fuel cells, the traditional diesel-battery-engine-concept cannot be compared to in this case - this is NOT a normal diesel sub with an added fuel cell. The engine is directly powered by the fuel cells. The energy in these fuel cells can only be replenished at harbour, by replacing and/or loading the cylindrical modules that store these ressources (they do indeed look like giant AAA battery cells, :) ) Normal operation of the the engine and screw is energized by the fuel cell only - always. Top secret propeller and fuel cell makes for so little noise at up to medium speed settings that the sub is described to be "undetectable by contemporary passive sonar even if sensors are just a "Katzensprung" away" (quoting a leading engineer of HDW in an interview with a defense affairs journalist at the beginniong of this year, a guy I once talked to). The same source told him that the "212 is easily the most "non-existing" sub in the water today."
The limited hull size (still much more room than in the 206 and 209) is referring to the roots of the project in the cold war. The 212 hull design was once meant for exclusive Eastern sea operations.

The duration of the sub beeing able to remain submerged without snorkeling or taking ressupplies is top secret, and various sources indicate various time frames from up to 3 weeks to up to 4 months. Since the sub is Germany's top intel gathering platform is is now meant to serve in that role globally, if wanted, and that requires long endurance capabilities. time and again German medias have pointed out that this sub can operate completely indepedent from surface (snorkelling, ressuplying) for "many, many weeks". That'S why some tend to think of it as "a nuclear sub without a nuclear engine."

but whatever - it looks damn sexy.

What is U 212 range at max speed submerged? (more or less)