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McBeck 08-08-05 07:33 AM

From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe?
 
Possible?

stratege 08-08-05 07:41 AM

???????????????


What is the question ??


All depends of your ship.

McBeck 08-08-05 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stratege
???????????????


What is the question ??


All depends of your ship.

Sorry. From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe in a VIIB or VIIC, is it possible?

Schemer 08-08-05 08:03 AM

Possible, and then some...
Type VII range is well over 10,000 km at 1/3 or slow speed, IIRC...

stratege 08-08-05 08:05 AM

This might be possible if:

- you do the direct shortest path to it.
- Spend maximun time submerge a slow motion until reaching oxygene/baterie limit, then
- surface at 1/3 ahead, untin air/baterie is full, then get submerge again .....

I will give a try ...

Schemer 08-08-05 08:08 AM

:88) :doh:
You guys must mean via the Suez Canal. I thought the VII was could make it across the atlantic, and maybe even back again. Loch Ewe is just a short jaunt around Ireland to the top of Scotland...

SmokinTep 08-08-05 08:27 AM

VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Schemer 08-08-05 08:31 AM

Yeah, that was a "maybe" regarding the return trip.
I have made it to Newfoundland with fuel remaining. Got killed before I had the chance to run out of gas on the way home.

Nopileo 08-08-05 11:56 AM

Well Loch Ewe is basically just across the canal (and a few miles :P) from St. Nazaire. You could probably make it in a type II boat.

Egan 08-08-05 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinTep
VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Yes it will. You just have to economise on speed and fuel.

Carcassonne 08-08-05 12:10 PM

Absolutely possible...I've left Wilhelmshaven in a VIIB (shorter range) and travelled north of Scapa to grid BE62 (nearly due west of Western France).

In fact during that patrol I used my battery power as much as possible, reached BE62 (North of Scapa), hunted a convoy in grid AM51, entered Loch Ewe, and then returned to Wilhelmshaven (again the northern route) and upon my return I had roughly 60% fuel remaining.

Payoff 08-08-05 04:42 PM

I am in Brest with a VIIB and constantly assigned grid AM32 North of Loch Ewe. I usually end up chasing convoys coming out of AL at flank speed on the return trip and make it home with fuel to spare, no problem.

Charos 08-08-05 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egan
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinTep
VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Yes it will. You just have to economise on speed and fuel.

Yes this was done on a regular basis during the war - 6 Knots is the speed of travel.

A real Type VII running economy cruise would run on one Diesel at any given time - this was changed every 4 Hours to equalise wear.

The active diesel would be clutched to its E-machine which would keep the batteries on float - the other shaft would be clutched to its E-machine and driven off that.

This configuration was more economical than running at the same speed with both diesels.

Knotical 08-11-05 01:40 AM

Re: From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McBeck
Possible?

Sorry, but you cant get there from there. :nope:

Mowgli 08-11-05 04:49 AM

Yes you can
 
You can get there and still have fuel left for hunting on return.

I have been there in my VIIb - nothing except two dd's but sometimes there is a cruiser but not on my visit.

When surfaced I always travel at slow speed - ask you NO for range at current speed. Loads of fuel left on return to base but journeys obviously take much longer.

enigma-e 08-11-05 05:56 AM

Seems as if all the nautical geniuses who say it isn't possible to travel from St. Nazaire to Loch Ewe run at flank speed at all time, and then they wonder why the destroyers spot them 10 miles away when going submerged. :rotfl:


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