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Hamas launches war on Israel

Netanjahu has declared a state of war.

Reservists are being called up in huge numbers, observers count that as a sign of that they have the situatin not under control.

Hamas started with a barrage of "hundres of rockets". Hamas commandos have attacked into Israel on the ground, killed many civilians in the streets on sight, and hijacked "a huge number".

The Israeli air force is in full combat engagement.

It seems the Israelis this time got caught on the wrong foot. I guess they will regain control, but I also think this is a new war, not just an "operation".

^Yep, that will be the headline in 2099 as well. :O:

Observers in Israel describe the way Hamas strikes and tactics it uses as right the worst case scenario the army always had feared and warned of. The situation gets compared to the debakle of Jom Kippur 1973. Sounds all pretty serious. And the hostages - many of them already. Wasn't there this Israeli soldier who was held hostage for 5 years and then got freed - for over 1000 terrorists in Israeli prisons?

What I'm wondering about is-What can we expect from Iran, Syria and Lebanon(Hizbollah)?

Hopefully they stay calm.

Markus

My money is on Israel every time.

2200 rockets fired so far, says IDF speaker. At least 40 dead, 780 wounded. A "huge number" (speaker) of hostages taken.

Sooner or later it will be Israel'S move. It will be anything but shy.

After air strikes, 200 dead in Gaza, says CNN.

Easier to simply put up a live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBRguEoWiQ

Analysis of "why now?" To the author it is no surprise.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Now I see why we have to log in for forum viewing. :D

Just another bad result of our stolen election. Where's Biden's money for the Israelis? The squad will want to send money to hamas.

Best of luck to Israel.

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2887251)

Amen

Nothing but a 'media war'.:03:

The prediction, or should I say, the planned sequence of events is :-

Second last: The take-down of Israel.
Last: The take-down of MSM.

Which makes sense, as you still need the BS'ing MSM to feed normie with what they want to believe. Then once all targets are achieved (excuse the pun).. the shock on Normie's faces when they find out that it's all been nothing but a Truman Show for th elast 10 years or so.

Pharkit.. it's going to be something to behold
I've already booked my ringside seats.
:up::D

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1. Massive Israeli intelligence failure. The last time Israel was blind sided this badly was the '73 war. Though we should note Israel came out on top in that conflict 50 years ago.

2. The scope of this infiltration attack indicates a huge level of planning and preparation spanning months or years. Which underscores point #1.

3. The level of brutality already involved; confirmed executions of Israeli soldiers and civilians, parading the bodies of slain IDF personnel (including 1 female soldier), indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians, etc will help set the tone for what follows.

4. Israeli declaration of war by the PM gives some indication of what we can expect from Israel by way of response. Also indicates the seriousness with which the government regards this attack/invasion. As does the IDF moving to a war footing and immediately recalling reserves.

5. Expect a significant degree of rally around the flag following this. Internal disputes will be put on the back burner for the time being. This is good news for Bibi.

6. The Israeli left's political influence will likely take a serious beating given their long standing conciliatory (by comparison) stance towards the Palestinians. Again, good news for the current center-right governing coalition.

7. Given the widespread support for the Palestinians being voiced by various Arab governments in the region - the progress of the Abraham Accords has suffered significant damage. How much remains to be seen.

8. I expect a significant Israeli response. Whatever it looks like, it will open with the air campaign we're already seeing the beginnings of. I currently regard future ground operations into Gaza by the IDF as highly likely.

9. While Iran supports numerous proxies & militias in the region, including Hamas & Hezbollah, and has openly praised this attack, it's not yet clear how involved Tehran is prepared to be. Some of their official rhetoric has been bellicose. What Hezbollah chooses to do in over the next few days or weeks may provide insight.

10. Which way Hezbollah jumps will have a major impact. Their involvement would create a two front problem for Israel and bring a significant number of additional enemy forces into the fight.

11. Several Arab nations, including Egypt, have made what could be construed as threats against Israel if the IDF were to launch punitive operations against Gaza in ways they deem disproportionate. Whether this is merely rhetoric or a genuine warning remains to be seen. From some nations, like Egypt, it's a threat Israel must take seriously.

hat tip: Patrick Fox

^ This was my first thought when I heard about this massive attack on Israel, what about Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.
Egypt, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia was not in my mind.

Markus

I wonder how many of those American looking firearms Palestinians are dancing around in the streets with came from stocks our administration left in Afghanistan?

I admit I did not expect this.
But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him.

I expect Israel wiiill react with a little more than just a "police operation". They now report over one hundred dead, and then there are the hostages.

Egypts warning shows that crow of same feather forever will fly together, no matter the babble done on a sunny day.

Concern is what Hezbollah is up to. This enemy is a completely different weight class than Hamas. Its assumed they have 100 to 150 thousand missiles and rockets, and as many fighters.

This action has written "escalation" all over it. Time for serious concerns.

By chance, yesterday I read something that reminded of that in the past wars, Eastgermany actively supported and delievered stuff to the enemies of Israel in the war in question - and Westgermany did nothing similiar for Israel.

Germany's Sugar-Anni used the opportunity to practice speaking with a low voice while sending dark looks at her notes sheet. If I were the Hamas leader, I would be really worried now. :haha:

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2887295)

I admit I did not expect this.
But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him.

Oh no doubt Putin and Iran support and supply the actions of Hamas and me wondering about what I see in the news does not in any way absolve them of their responsibility. But why I see Palestinians dancing in the streets holding what looks like U.S. made weapons is still valid. Because it is very well known the Taliban are selling them.

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The Taliban Are Now Arms Dealers
Terrorists are shopping for left-behind American weapons—and turning them against Washington’s friends around the world.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/05...les-terrorism/

Or maybe we should just ignore it and just chalk it up as an anti-Biden conspiracy theory so we don’t have to think about.

^ whatever created all this mess, reading the last part of the post above the destabilisation of the US obviously works :yeah:
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