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Armistead 01-31-22 11:41 AM

Will Spotify Dump Rogan?
 
I don't think so, but Rogan responds. https://www.dailywire.com/news/joe-r...GFqDr1MwQ9sq8k

u crank 01-31-22 11:49 AM

Not a chance.

Jimbuna 01-31-22 01:19 PM

Can't see it happening myself.

Catfish 01-31-22 01:36 PM

I know nothing about this 'Rogan' cult and frankly, i do not care.
I know a bit about Neil Young though.

mapuc 01-31-22 01:44 PM

As a person who love free speech I do not like when some are restricted in what they are allowed to say.

Let them speak freely - Let it be up to the listerne to believe or reject what has been said to the audience.

Markus

Arlo 01-31-22 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2791014)
As a person who love free speech I do not like when some are restricted in what they are allowed to say.

Let them speak freely - Let it be up to the listerne to believe or reject what has been said to the audience.

Markus

There are practical limitations to 'free speech' in a society that looks out for the well-being of its populace. Undermining medical expertise during a pandemic is a behavior that that undermines a culture of safety and wrongly (maybe even criminally) so.

mapuc 01-31-22 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arlo (Post 2791036)
There are practical limitations to 'free speech' in a society that looks out for the well-being of its populace. Undermining medical expertise during a pandemic is a behavior that that undermines a culture of safety and wrongly (maybe even criminally) so.

When I mean free speech I do not mean free to call another person ugly thing.
Then I personally don't like a comment or similar with ugly words.

I've meet people who reject certain historical things-It's their right to have this opinion. I on the other hand can NOT support this standpoint.
(Well they could not be my friends either)

Markus

Catfish 01-31-22 03:52 PM

^ Ok so "the Holocaust was a lie and propaganda, just to paint Hitler in an unfavourable light".
Just an opinion, you know? Why not spread it everywhere to get more Google clicks, it is my right.
What if some idiot tells that, what if a president tells that. Both have their opinions.

Arlo 01-31-22 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2791043)
When I mean free speech I do not mean free to call another person ugly thing.

Methinks you misunderstand what 'undermine' means.

mapuc 01-31-22 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2791047)
^ Ok so "the Holocaust was a lie and propaganda, just to paint Hitler in an unfavourable light".
Just an opinion, you know? Why not spread it everywhere to get more Google clicks, it is my right.
What if some idiot tells that, what if a president tells that. Both have their opinions.


I also wrote
"I on the other hand can NOT support this standpoint.
(Well they could not be my friends either)"

I support their right to speak freely, but I may not support the content of this speech. AND I do NOT support such an opinion as mentioned by the example you posted.

Markus

mapuc 01-31-22 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo (Post 2791048)
Methinks you misunderstand what 'undermine' means.


I know what you mean and I forgot to write about it in my last answer to you.

An example.
Some people says in the show that the vaccine contain nano-cells so (forgot his name)can track you.

This may undermine the hard work the health authorities are doing to get people vaccinated against Corona.

Markus

Catfish 01-31-22 04:10 PM

^ So like "I do not share Hitler's point of view, but he has every right to say what he wants. Let him go on."

u crank 01-31-22 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2791010)
I know nothing about this 'Rogan' cult and frankly, i do not care.
I know a bit about Neil Young though.

If you don't know anything about Joe Rogan why would you refer to it as a cult?

I use to be a big Neil Young fan and proud that he is a Canadian. Not any more. His childish behavior here is as illiberal as it gets. Don't like other peoples opinions ... get them deplatformed. What a jerk.

Arlo 01-31-22 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2791060)
If you don't know anything about Joe Rogan why would you refer to it as a cult?

I use to be a big Neil Young fan and proud that he is a Canadian. Not any more. His childish behavior here is as illiberal as it gets. Don't like other peoples opinions ... get them deplatformed. What a jerk.

Some people's 'opinions' get other people dead but they don't care. That's a much worse flavor of childish. Responsibility. Some people can't do it.

Catfish 01-31-22 04:43 PM

@ucrank as you might know Neil has protested against some music company before.
Just his opinion, he continues his life-long political action he is known for. I would not even call it political, it is right or wrong for him. He was and is not always right, but more believable than a lot of others.
He just says he does not want to support a company that does deals with Rogan, so he's out of Spotify, that's it.

re Rogan, i still have no idea, but browsing a bit i think he's engaged in the sublime art of self portrayal with his show. Since he was seen with some anti vaxxers the right instinctively loves him.

mapuc 01-31-22 05:16 PM

A thought

His show:
How many in percentage has change their standpoint when it comes to Corona and how many has changed from deciding to get the vaccine to not getting it ?

Let me give you an example which has nothing to do with Corona.

A couples of year back it was decided that our busses should be free to use-They hoped that people who drove to work would take the buss instead.

A year after they could conclude that...The number of passangers in the morning and afternoon was still the same-no different. Those who drove to work still did it.

So lets get back to discuss Rogan and Corona.
With this free buss in mind, I think that those who reject the vaccine or think Corona is a lie a.s.o, will be the same in numbers, no changes here even if Rogan show was shut down-

People who taken the vaccine or planning on taking it and know Corona is real will not change their mind not even after having listen to this Rogan show.

(Hope you understand what I wrote-It's not grammar correct)

Markus

u crank 01-31-22 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arlo (Post 2791061)
Some people's 'opinions' get other people dead but they don't care. That's a much worse flavor of childish. Responsibility. Some people can't do it.

Correct me if I wrong but I am pretty sure that in a free society like America it is the individual who is responsible for their own health and well being. The very idea that someone's opinion on any subject can change that is ludicrous.

Let's face it we know what this is about. And it is not about medical opinions right or wrong. It's about politics and the fact that the Left can't control a guy like Rogan. It keeps them awake at night.

u crank 01-31-22 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2791062)
He just says he does not want to support a company that does deals with Rogan, so he's out of Spotify, that's it.

Well that is not quite the story. Young demanded that Spotify make a choice between him and Rogan. And that is why I say that it is very illiberal of Young to take that opinion. Why can't they both exist on the same platform. That is the very essence of free speech. I'm very disappointed and never thought he would do such a thing.

Buddahaid 01-31-22 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2791070)
Well that is not quite the story. Young demanded that Spotify make a choice between him and Rogan. And that is why I say that it is very illiberal of Young to take that opinion. Why can't they both exist on the same platform. That is the very essence of free speech. I'm very disappointed and never thought he would do such a thing.

Neil Young is exercising his free speech right no matter how anyone else feels about it. He said choose me, or him.

u crank 01-31-22 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2791075)
Neil Young is exercising his free speech right no matter how anyone else feels about it. He said choose me, or him.

That is one way of spinning it. Another spin is that he attempted to use a corporation to limit the free speech of someone else. And obviously Spotify wasn't going to do that. Good for them.


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