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Skybird 05-27-21 07:01 AM

Why are brothels illegal (in most of the US)?
 
Hehe, I am certain with this topic I now have every moderator's attention... :D


https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/...thels-illegal/


But with the last sentence in that essay being "Brothels need not exist in a free society, but their absence should not result from governments’ having made them illegal", all mods I assume can now relax a bit again.

Rockstar 05-27-21 09:02 AM

I don't know why some comnunities would ban the oldest profession.

I lived on 'dry' island inhabited by a very small community of a devout religious kind of people. Outwardly proclaiming the evils of drugs and booze. It had one of the highest rates of drug and alchohol abuse in the State.

Onkel Neal 05-27-21 09:05 AM

I'm all in favor of legalized brothels ;)

Mr Quatro 05-27-21 09:20 AM

Many years ago (before my time of course) brothels were legal in Texas.

Remember the movie "Best Little Whore House in Texas" was based on a true story by a reporter for a Houston newspaper who had them busted.

A brothel can not be legal due to laws enacted by the good people of any given community, plus it's a health problem and a human trafficking problem at the same time.

A place like Amsterdam is not going to happen in the USA. They do have legal prostitution in Nevada, but it is limited to rural counties on rural ranches and is the only state that I know of.

Prostitution is however alive and well in the USA from one end to the other end.

Do your own research using "ladies of the night" and this is what you get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxHEU40aQ9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AgBDkmRO4

Not exactly out of sight either so makes you wonder who's keeping the books ... :o

Know what I mean? :yep:

Moonlight 05-27-21 09:38 AM

I remember a big scandal at my local catholic school when I was about 12, it was run by the local nuns who didn't take any prisoners when it came to down to any defiance or misbehaviour by us pupils.
One year about 10 of them went to Africa on some kind of nun exchange type system for 6 months or thereabouts, 7 of them came back bleeding pregnant, the shame of the nuns forsaking their vows forced the local council to take over the running of it. :haha: So much for morality eh. :O:

Rockstar 05-27-21 09:52 AM

If communities support issuing clean needles and safe places for heroine addicts. So these drug abusers can shoot up in safety and without fear of arrest or prosecution.

Think what kind of safety a well run and regulated brothel would provide for the ladies and their clients. And think about all that tax revenue! You could build a free day care center next door where poor single dads drop their kids off on Friday date nights.

Do it for the children, do it for all those lonely single fathers. Vote YES for Brothels.

Skybird 05-27-21 10:12 AM

All very interesting - just that the replies so far have little to do with the original essay's topic. :D

Moonlight 05-27-21 10:55 AM

You brought up morality with that bloody link of yours Skybird, I'm just responding to it.
Take a chill pill then book a flight to LA and let your self go for once, I guarantee some of those girls will empty more than yer bleeding wallet, oh yeah and let us all know how it went. :haha:

At least I've found out what a snow bunny is and also a chocolate one, I was thinking what the hell is he bleeding talking about bunny rabbits for when it's a brothel\prostitution thread. :haha:

Texas Red 05-27-21 11:06 AM

The reason for it being illegal (in my opinion) is partly that it is morally wrong and it is a place where a LOT of major criminals would go to for services. Brothels can be a hub for human and drug trafficking as well as other illegal activities.

I would say no to brothels.

mapuc 05-27-21 11:13 AM

it is the oldest type of work in the world

Markus

Texas Red 05-27-21 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2749923)
it is the oldest type of work in the world

Markus

Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it is wrong.

That is the equivalent of murdering somebody and telling the police:
"Well, its the oldest crime in the world so that must make it right!"

Rockstar 05-27-21 11:18 AM

Morally wrong?


"I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you"

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/video/be...ln.640x360.jpg

Texas Red 05-27-21 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2749926)
Morally wrong?


"I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you"

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/video/be...ln.640x360.jpg

Has that woman ever read the Bible before? I would hope so because any religious person would know that God absolutely detests prostitutes and any sexual immoral sin.

Giving bad girls and place to live, clean themselves up, help them find a job and find Jesus is a great thing but that wouldn't be the person I would choose to do it.

Also, if you are quoting a Biblical verse, I would like to know the exact location of it because I am absolutely certain that you are taking it out of context.

Aktungbby 05-27-21 11:34 AM

Not quite so lad: Rahab let Joshua into Jericho; (and the earth shook??:O:) and Mary Magdalene was oft conveniently portrayed by religious hierarchy as a woman of ill reputation seeking redemption from the Savior.... and, as per my avatar, I suffer from 'Fallen Angel Syndrôme! :hmmm::O:

Bilge_Rat 05-27-21 12:48 PM

In Canada, you have a strange situation where solicitation and "pimping" is illegal, but prostitution itself is not if carried on by an "independent" adult sex worker, so in Montreal, you have websites openly advertising "escorts" or "sugar babies".

Police do not crack down or prosecute, unless the girls are minors or violence is involved, since the law is so ambiguous.

Skybird 05-27-21 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Whacko (Post 2749921)
The reason for it being illegal (in my opinion) is partly that it is morally wrong and it is a place where a LOT of major criminals would go to for services. Brothels can be a hub for human and drug trafficking as well as other illegal activities.

I would say no to brothels.

Read the article again then, especially the last paragraph. ;) I agree, there should nto need to be brothels at all, but they shoulkd not be not there because state simply bans them, but because society and culture would be such - its people, that is - that the need to have them is not there.

A "moral" society would not have them, one would guess. That they are being had maybe means society is not as moral as some members of it claims. Or sexual liberality is not agreed to be necessarily immoral, as many religions claim.

Also, society's norms and cultural rules on what is moral and what not, may be different in different places.

If state simply forbids something without the crime argument being true, as the essay describes for the given examples, then this prohibition is not right in itself, but only means that some people, want to have and claim the right and power to order others what they are allowed to do and what not.

And that - libertarian freedoms versus pesky state authority commanding people around t enforce their subjugation under state authority - is what the essay is really about. ;)

No, this all is not about brothels and sexcual morality in the first. Thats an illustrating opener only.

Mr Quatro 05-27-21 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlight (Post 2749919)
You brought up morality with that bloody link of yours Skybird, I'm just responding to it.
Take a chill pill then book a flight to LA and let your self go for once, I guarantee some of those girls will empty more than yer bleeding wallet, oh yeah and let us all know how it went. :haha:

At least I've found out what a snow bunny is and also a chocolate one, I was thinking what the hell is he bleeding talking about bunny rabbits for when it's a brothel\prostitution thread. :haha:

Ask him if he knows what half and half or around the world means? :haha:

Just kidding I don't do that anymore ... they are unclean. I wouldn't mind witnessing to them though that what they are doing is bad for their health and that they are going to get old someday and nobody is going to care, but that Jesus loves them and wants to make all things right again for them.

I do feel sorry for them :yep:

mapuc 05-27-21 02:51 PM

I personally wouldn't visit such a place.

It isn't the same as I say ban it.

Allow it, but under strict regulations.

Brothels are allowed in Germany and in Denmark.

In both countries there are regulations.

Like the Danish brothels had to close during the corona lockdown.

Markus

Platapus 05-27-21 06:19 PM

A woman can go to a bar every night, accept drinks from people and choose to have sex with as many men as she wants and that's OK


But if she takes a dollar, all of a sudden it is an immoral act. :doh::doh::doh::doh:

3catcircus 05-27-21 06:42 PM

In the early 90s, when I was stationed in Pearl Harbor, the main street in Waikiki was awash in ladies plying their trade every night. Right across the street from the police station. If you were young and single or if you were a Japanese businessman in travel, forget about walking down the street unmolested.


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