Iran's top nuclear scientist assassinated
 

Israel anyone?

Seems likely although Iran would say that anyway.

No doubt Iran will blame Israel for this.

Who did I don't know-There are a few countries and groups who could have done it.

Markus

Only thing that matters is whether it was done too late or just in time.

And another thing.

What will Iran do as revenge ?
If Israel is behind, will they send rockets towards Israel? I don't think so.

I think they will attack Israel by proxy.

Markus

Well it makes good headlines and I'm sure thats how Iran would love for us and the Muslim world to see it. Especially with Israel's recent alliances with certain Suuni kingdoms.

However, maybe something else is going on that has been in the works now for decades.

In 2001 the United States was attacked by terrorists in September. Interestingly, shortly afterwards in 2002 a group called the Mujahedin-e-Khalq said it had uncovered Iranian nuclear facilities at Natanz. Being after 911 the thought probably scared the hell out of western governments that further attacks could be carried out with nuclear weapons. It may have been the real reason coalition force went into Iraq the next year. Why Iraq and not Iran? The odds of successfully carrying out such an attack on Iran would most likely have been insurmountable and probably still is.

In 2012 President Obama removed Mujahedin-e-Khalq from terrorist list.

In 2016 Secretary of State John Kerry thanks the government and NATO member of Albania for resettling members of the Iranian opposition group Mujahedin e Khalq.

Today reports that Trump is unstable and wants war because he lost an election is for the consumption of the village idiots of the world and was in my honest opinion just very good propaganda. Which I'm sure has once again placed Iranian officials on high alert. Even so a group of rebels probably backed by NATO and the Saudis were still able to attack and kill one Iran's leading scientists. The Ayatollah's must be sharting twinkies about now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf7VPklv8GY

What about Turkey ?

They are Iran's closes allied.

I guess they will stay calm behind the political scene.

Markus

Good point, but remember it was just a few days ago that Trump asked his military advisors what his options were :o

If anything is going to happen I'd expect it to be over the forthcoming holiday period for maximum effect.

I would also reckon Israel would welcome the opportunity to retaliate should they be the target.

There is a regime change in Washington. Israel acted while it still could without the new big white house boss becoming angry.

Or it was the little boy, to say Sayonara to his Iranian buddies while the new big white house boss has not yet arrived.

Iran hopes that under Biden sanctions will get lifted and their nuclear porgram is given more room to breath again. They will not directly retaliate against Israel, so to not anger the new big white house boss.

While the rest of your post makes sense, i still wonder why the US attacked Iraq instead of Iran if the latter was the real threat?
Following this logic the US could have attacked Andorra or San Marino as well. :hmmm:

History points to decades of intel, sanctions, doctrines, military intervention, funding and even lining up a new regime for Iran. Beginning with Bush all the way through Obama, Trump U.S. and NATO. I dont believe Israel, one nation out the entire world, had to act before Biden gets in. It smells just like one of those Jewish world domination conspiracy theories.

Most likely whoever it was that attacked Fakhrizadeh in Iran was a resistance group or an affiliation with said group funded and backed by NATO. My guess https://english.mojahedin.org/i/prim...anization-iran

Who is Biden going to make a deal with anyway? Not even Europe seems to be in a rush until at least the Iranian elections in June, IF there is an election.

According to Swedish news Iran will revenge this killing.

I'm not an expert so how, when and where I can't say.

I have the same standpoint as Skybird a direct attack on Israel will not happen.

Markus

Taking out 5 targets simultaneously and coordinating the assassinations accordingly is more than the usual resistance groups are capable to acchieve, in intel and in coordination. It was Israel, or the US. Probably Israel. The US uses drones, like Russia uses poison and Israel uses shooting assassinations or bombs. Leaving a signature, is wanted, because it sends a message. Call it non-verbal communicating.

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Good one man. Very good.:up:

Good question. To be honest I really dont know why, its been one big mess over there for the last several centuries. Maybe because Iran is a much larger country and the terrain more varied. Could have made logistics and decisive operations like 73 Easting kind of difficult. There would have also been sympathetic shiite populations in Iraq to our rear. Getting stuck in the middle could have turned out to be a major charlie foxtrot.

On the other hand Iraq has always been deeply divided and after Kuwait invasion was ripe for regime change. Now was invasion to free Kuwait or part of some long term plan to confront Iran and its nuclear ambitions. Maybe China's creeping influence butting heads with our Carter doctrine which dictates we protect the oil resources in the middle east I dont really know. Could have been all three and more reasons together. Whatever the case we are knocking on Iran's front door now from Iraq and Afghanistan. Couple that with sanctions, internal anti-government protests, and resistance groups killing off government officials and scientists inside Iran seems to be chipping away at things. No rush though we got all day.

As for Israel, yes they may have contributed something, intel maybe? But I dont think its enough for me to hop on the same bandwagon as the Iranian Red Guard and blame Israel for the attack.

@ Catfish, because the first Bush didn't finish the job and go all the way to Bagdad ... so his son steps in a finishes the job.

Iran is still cruising for a bruising and will find out sooner or later why we call our fighter jets Hornets :yep:


When did Iraq attack Kuwait?

August 2, 1990 – August 4, 1990


What happened between Iraq and Kuwait?

After a series of failed negotiations between major world powers and Iraq, the United States-led coalition forces launched a massive military assault on Iraq and Iraqi forces stationed in Kuwait in mid-January 1991. ... Hostilities continued until late February and on 25 February, Kuwait was officially liberated from Iraq.

Why did the US attack Iraq in 2003?

The 2003 invasion of Iraq was the first stage of the Iraq War. ... According to U.S. President George W. Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, the coalition aimed "to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people."

I got a strong feeling of déjà-vu when I read this thread title, and I don't know why.

Regarding Irag and Iran two factors must be considered for understanding why the region is such a hellhole.

First, the war between Shia and Sunni, and the ethnic tensions linked to that.

Second the artificial borderdrawing by colonial masters from the West who set these lines on maps in explicit ignorration of ethnic distribution patterns on the ground, ripping apart what belonged together and forced together what does not go well together.

Bush sn's premature ending of the second Gulf War, was stupid, cynical, and short-sighted.

Bush jn's triggering of a war against Iraq while it had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, was even more stupid. The lies used to defend it, were blatant. The ammount of naivety and incompetent plannign for the time after, was breathtaking. The mess Iraq today is in, is a result of this dilettantism.

The new "friendship" between Israel and Arab nations, is not really friendship, but owes to the perception of a shared enemy, Iran, and narcissism of Arab leaders who want to boast with F35s. The general antisemitic sentiment against Jews are not affected by all this, Islam's hostility against Jews (any everything not being Islam's) lives on. The situaiton has a certain effect of containign Turkey, which slowly raises to one of the biggest troublemakers.