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UglyMowgli 08-04-20 11:56 AM

Massive explosion at Beirut port
 
Apparently silo grains went off. A lot of damage and injuries


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzIuaoc-UYs

Gerald 08-04-20 12:08 PM

I read a bit about it..and in the usual order it came up racket attack etc.etc speculation in other words. But clearly a very powerful explosion..can also perhaps include an insurance case.

Jimbuna 08-04-20 01:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seDjIuDFERk

mapuc 08-04-20 03:04 PM

Here they have said it could have been the fireworks warehouse which is placed at the harbour.

Edit
It was, according to Lebanese authorities' confiscated highly explosive materials
End edit

Markus

Onkel Neal 08-04-20 04:13 PM

Massive explosion in Beirut
 
Wow, crazy!

https://www.foxnews.com/world/explos...capital-beirut

The 2nd video is extraordinary, before the camera pulls away it looks like a shock wave blowing everything straight up. It's the video captioned "Stunning video shows explosions just minutes ago at Beirut port".

Quote:

Video taken by residents showed a fire raging at the port, sending up a giant column of smoke, illuminated by flashes of what appear to be fireworks. Local TV stations reported that a fireworks warehouse was involved.

The fire then appeared to catch at a nearby building, triggering a more massive explosion, sending up a mushroom cloud and a shock wave.
Yeah, there a lot of lights and sparkles in the base of the cloud before the explosion.

mapuc 08-04-20 04:55 PM

Don't want to be the one who is spoiling a good thread

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...20#post2687120

Markus

Subnuts 08-04-20 05:03 PM

You can actually see the moisture in the air being turned to steam by the heat of the fireball. :o

Gerald 08-04-20 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2687173)
Wow, crazy!

https://www.foxnews.com/world/explos...capital-beirut

The 2nd video is extraordinary, before the camera pulls away it looks like a shock wave blowing everything straight up. It's the video captioned "Stunning video shows explosions just minutes ago at Beirut port".



Yeah, there a lot of lights and sparkles in the base of the cloud before the explosion.

A new explosion in the same area ....:hmmm:

tmccarthy 08-04-20 07:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAI_0BZLAwQ

Buddahaid 08-04-20 09:02 PM

Currently believed to be 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate improperly stored in a warehouse offloaded six years ago from an impounded ship. Who started the fire that found the warehouse?

Gerald 08-04-20 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2687192)
Currently believed to be 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate improperly stored in a warehouse offloaded six years ago from an impounded ship. Who started the fire that found the warehouse?

No kidding? 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate...this is huge. :o

Buddahaid 08-04-20 09:36 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53659282

Gerald 08-04-20 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2687195)

Thank you! As you say ... how could this happen, someone has obviously had an intent.

Jimbuna 08-05-20 06:37 AM

Rescuers are searching for survivors after a huge explosion in Beirut's port area on Tuesday.

At least 100 people are known to have died in the blast, which injured thousands more.

It was caused by 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored unsafely in a warehouse, Lebanon's president says.

The port appears to have been entirely destroyed, while buildings across the city sustained damage.

Up to 300,000 people have been left homeless, Beirut's governor says.

Three days of mourning have been declared in the country, already suffering from an economic crisis and the pandemic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...-east-53664184

skidman 08-05-20 01:23 PM

It's so sad seeing this city and this country clobbered once again. My thoughts are with those, who lost their families, friends and loved ones.

Jimbuna 08-05-20 01:26 PM

A number of Beirut port officials are being placed under house arrest pending an investigation into Tuesday's huge explosion, Lebanon's government says.

The blast killed at least 135 people and injured more than 4,000 others. A two-week state of emergency has begun.

President Michel Aoun said the blast was caused by 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored unsafely in a warehouse.

Customs chief Badri Daher said his agency called for the chemical to be removed, but "this did not happen".

"We leave it to the experts to determine the reasons," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53670839

Skybird 08-05-20 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 2687196)
Thank you! As you say ... how could this happen, someone has obviously had an intent.

Not necessarily, ammonium nitrate storage sites or factories sometimes blow up here and there again and again, due to unsafe security rules, accidents. A couple fo years ago in China. Two or threee times in Africa in the past 20 years. 1921 in a factory in Germany, history books say that back then windows up to 15 km away bursted. Ir surely is a big Booom.



There was an earlier fire in a nearby place that stored or produced fireworks. From there the fire may have ingited the A.N. , which in itself is not so easily to ignite, they say.



If there was intention, then the intention to not store it away safely, but leaving it there for so long time. Question also may be why such an ammount was stored. Was it really only agricultural need? It gets rumoured that maybe "religious" groups held the ownership rights and kept it for times of war, to produce explosives. If that is true I would not even rule out that the Mossad may be behind this. But that is a very thin theory only, i currently give it no reasonable credit. For the time beign I go with the explanation of a fire jumping over to the storage site and then blowing it up, accidentally.



But in this part of the world you have to expect everything, and nothing is as it seems.

Skybird 08-05-20 01:42 PM

German media report that Hezbollah maintained storage sites with huge quantities of cooling opack sin Germany that contained signficant ammounts of ammonoum nitarte. That was in the years 2012 to 2016, and after the intelliogence service foundign out about it this discovery became the fudnament of why later Hezbollah was banned frim being active in business or presence in Germany.

A link between the warehouse in the harbour, and Hezbollah, appears likely currently, even more so since the Lebanese custoims office demanded the removal of the stockjpiles already loner time agao, and nothign hapopened. Hezbollah is very influential in Lebanese politics.

Randomizer 08-05-20 01:44 PM

Here's an analysis piece from a pretty reliable analyst:

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...-up-in-beirut/

Early days yet and offered with the usual caveats:

High-order detonation of ~2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate stored in bags in a dockside ware house probably equalled ~240 tonnes of TNT

Numerous, smaller pre-detonation explosions caught on film.

3.5-3.7 shock on the Richter Scale

Shock wave rattled windows in Cyprus

Large crater in the harbour now visible at scene of detonation.

Beirut customs officials had been trying to make the seized chemicals go away for several years. Pre-detonation photos of the warehouse show pretty sloppy storage and handling.

-C

Mr Quatro 08-05-20 02:16 PM

I don't think Hezbollah did it, but they will get the blame due to being in charge of why that much ammonium nitrate was stored in bags in a dockside ware house (2,700 tons)

Everyone knows it has explosive properties, but it was being denied export to it's orginal country and they had no plans what to do with it.

I was busy doing something else while it was on MSNBC so I only got a little shock, but I went back with my DVR HDD and turned the sound off to the reporter and wow ... what a difference it was to watch without comment. :yep:


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