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eddie 12-18-15 07:18 AM

Florida college Professor calls the murders at Sandy Hook a hoax!
 
This nut job claims what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School a hoax!:nope: He has even contacted the parents who lost a child there, to prove that their child actually existed and was killed there. When parents won't comply to such a stupid request, he belittles them in his blog. Here is what happened when he contacted one of the parents-

"Last week, the parents of of one child, Lenny and Veronique Pozner, wrote an opinion piece in the Sun-Sentinel which began, “It’s been three years since we last embraced our precious little boy, Noah. At six-years-old, he was the youngest child murdered at the Sandy Hook Elementary School. …
“The heartache of burying a child is a sorrow we would not wish upon anyone. Yet to our horror, we have found that there are some in this society who lack empathy for the suffering of others. Among them are the conspiracy theorists that deny our tragedy was real. They seek us out and accuse us of being government agents who are faking our grief and lying about our loss.”


"Among the conspiracy theorists — and they mention Republican candidate Donald Trump’s “rantings on the Alex Jones radio show” — one who got widespread attention was Florida Atlantic University professor James Tracy.
“Tracy even sent us a certified letter demanding proof that Noah once lived, that we were his parents, and that we were the rightful owner of his photographic image. We found this so outrageous and unsettling that we filed a police report for harassment. Once Tracy realized we would not respond, he subjected us to ridicule and contempt on his blog, boasting to his readers that the “unfulfilled request” was “noteworthy” because we had used copyright claims to “thwart continued research of the Sandy Hook massacre event.”:nope:


At least the university is moving to fire this jackass!:rock: If I had lost a child there, and he contacted me like that, I would suggest to him that we meet somewhere, to continue this conversation in person,lol


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uni...t?ocid=U351DHP

Oberon 12-18-15 07:19 AM

Sadly it's quite a popular theory amongst certain people that Sandy Hook was a hoax in order to advance an anti-gun agenda.

The terms jet fuel and steel beams comes to mind. :nope:

Onkel Neal 12-18-15 08:24 AM

Ugh, how could anyone perpetrate a hoax like this? It would be impossible, even Houdini couldn't pull it off. I'm very sorry there are people who buy into this type of stuff.:06:

Jimbuna 12-18-15 09:56 AM

Surely there must be something the authorities can do to people like this, causing distress and harassment or something along those lines at least :hmm2:

AVGWarhawk 12-18-15 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2367150)
Surely there must be something the authorities can do to people like this, causing distress and harassment or something along those lines at least :hmm2:

Probably not.

eddie 12-18-15 10:30 AM

I agree Jim, wish there was something the authorities could do. In the article I linked to about this, there is a link to his blog on Facebook. I couldn't read all of the rubbish he put up there, but it was fun to read the replies to it! I didn't think folks could get away with so much profanity on FB!:D

Betonov 12-18-15 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2367150)
Surely there must be something the authorities can do to people like this, causing distress and harassment or something along those lines at least :hmm2:

Be ''busy'' and ''ineficient'' when someone kicks his ass

Webster 12-18-15 11:27 AM

I view it as FELONY TERRORIZING, it falls into the same category as those morons who disrupt soldier families funerals to call the dead soldiers murderers for just being soldiers killed in the line of duty.

as for the attempt to link this to trump, that is bogus stretch to the extreme of infinity. just because trump allows himself to be interviewed by someone, that in no way means he is even aware of or agrees with the all views, statements, or beliefs of that person, so lets just drop the over reaching political mud slinging in all this.

Wolferz 12-18-15 11:32 AM

Rig his phone to reach a constant busy signal when he dials 911 to report his ass kicking.:-?

Aktungbby 12-18-15 11:48 AM

Aß KICKED! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/12/17/professor-who-says-sandy-hook-massacre-is-a-hoax-and-allegedly-harassed-parents-of-victims-gets-fired/

Commander Wallace 12-18-15 12:33 PM

It's sad the families of those lost at Sandy Hook have to deal with all this , especially at this time of the year. I doubt the parents will ever be able to enjoy an Xmas as their lost child will forever remain just that , an innocent young child taken away at a young age.

I wish them all strength in dealing with this.

GT182 12-18-15 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2367150)
Surely there must be something the authorities can do to people like this, causing distress and harassment or something along those lines at least :hmm2:

Maybe a "Blanket Party" the SOB would change his attitude. :yep:

vienna 12-18-15 04:32 PM

It's so-called "academics" like this idiot professor who make me wonder about the quality of university and college education in the US. Having gone through the 60s and 70s, I am well familiar with the sort of dribble spouting from some of the professors and instructors in colleges. Back then, it was leftie sort of dribble; now, I guess, it is the pendulum swing and the righties are showing, even with a PhD, idiots are idiots. There are rather a few sad aspects to this story: there is of course the deep sadness of the families of the victims and the survivors and their families having to deal with the sort of slime as those who wish to inflict even more misery on those who have suffered so much. It is sad these who are being re-victimized have so little to no recourse to stop or even attenuate the actions of the loons. It is sad persons such as this professor can't be dealt with summarily by the colleges because of the unreasonable strictures of things such as tenure, unions, and the fear of litigation. This piece of crap professor will probably be fired, but he will probably sue for "wrongful termination", have his union back him up, find some headline seeking lawyer to press his case, and, in the end, probably settle with the university for a big payday; and it will be a big payday, since the university is part of the Florida State university system, and the state taxpayers will get to enjoy the fact their taxes will pay for the professor's retirement nest egg...

I would really like to see some of those high profile lawyers who seem to pop up to defend the worst of the world have a bit of compassion and use their wiles to fashion some sort of action against the professor and others of his ilk and make them suffer; in the end, no matter how much those idiots like the professor might suffer from tasting a bit of their own medicine, it will be a suffering far, far less than that of a parent who has lost a child to senseless, random violence...


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August 12-18-15 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2367121)
Sadly it's quite a popular theory amongst certain people that Sandy Hook was a hoax in order to advance an anti-gun agenda.

The terms jet fuel and steel beams comes to mind. :nope:

"Certain people". That's a not so nice way of smearing millions of people because of the rantings of a single nut who as far as I can tell has nothing to do with the RKBA debate one way or the other. :nope:

Oberon 12-18-15 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2367241)
"Certain people". That's a not so nice way of smearing millions of people because of the rantings of a single nut who as far as I can tell has nothing to do with the RKBA debate one way or the other. :nope:

Are you saying that there are millions of conspiratorial nutjobs? :hmmm:

I guess that there's certainly more than one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_...iracy_theories

August 12-18-15 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2367244)
Are you saying that there are millions of conspiratorial nutjobs? :hmmm:

I guess that there's certainly more than one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_...iracy_theories

No I'm saying that Tracy is not claiming Sandy Hook was a hoax perpetrated in order to argue for gun control like you claim so the way I see it you are just making the connection in order to smear one side of a political debate.

The link you post references exactly two (2) people making gun control related hoax claims, a lawyer and a talk show host, as if a Shock Jock and an ambulance chaser couldn't have some other reason for making such controversial statements.





Oberon 12-18-15 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2367247)
No I'm saying that Tracy is not claiming Sandy Hook was a hoax perpetrated in order to argue for gun control like you claim so the way I see it you are just making the connection in order to smear one side of a political debate.

The link you post references exactly two (2) people making gun control related hoax claims, a lawyer and a talk show host, as if a Shock Jock and an ambulance chaser couldn't have some other reason for making such controversial statements.

If Tracy wasn't saying that, then why did he say:
Quote:

Regardless of where one stands on the Second Amendment and gun control, it is not unreasonable to suggest the Obama administration’s complicity or direct oversight of an incident that has in very short order sparked a national debate on the very topic—and not coincidentally remains a key piece of Obama’s political platform.

The move to railroad this program through with the aid of major media and an irrefutable barrage of children’s portraits, “heartfelt” platitudes and ostensible tears neutralizes a quest for genuine evidence, reasoned observation and in the case of Newtown honest and responsible law enforcement. Moreover, to suggest that Obama is not capable of deploying such techniques to achieve political ends is to similarly place ones faith in image and interpretation above substance and established fact, the exact inclination that in sum has brought America to such an impasse.
Link - http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/24...g-information/


Oh, and if it was just two people who believed in the conspiracy then how did Gene Rosen get so much online harassment? Or Robbie Parker? How about the 'Sandy Hook Exposed' video who Snopes ran an article about here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
If no-one else had such thoughts about this event then how do these things happen? Unless these two men, the Shock Jock and the Ambulance Chaser are very prolific on the internet. :hmmm:

August 12-18-15 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2367252)
If Tracy wasn't saying that, then why did he say:


Link - http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/24...g-information/

Sounds like you're quoting this nut after his admission that something actually did happen at Sandy Hook right? Well perpetrating a hoax versus taking political advantage of an incident are two very different things. Even you can't deny that anti-gun forces have attempted the latter every time there has been an attack. They are even trying to use the San Bernadino terrorist attack to advance their political agenda.

Oberon 12-18-15 07:58 PM

Here's some more:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/was-t...rol-conspiracy

http://kdvr.com/2015/10/05/strong-st...-to-step-down/

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=si...OQC8fSUca3l8gL

August 12-18-15 08:15 PM

One site with anonymous posts and the other two about just two individuals. Like I said, way to try and smear a couple hundred million pro-gun people. :up:


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