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Jimbuna 12-16-15 09:29 AM

US town rejects solar farm
 
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Because it will 'suck up all the sun'
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...l-suck-all-sun

Have I slept through Xmas and New Year and woken up in April :hmm2:

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 09:35 AM

And these people vote for presidents! :doh:

Commander Wallace 12-16-15 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2366622)
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...l-suck-all-sun

Have I slept through Xmas and New Year and woken up in April :hmm2:

Suck up all the sun ? Some people have way too much time on their hands. :roll:

Rockstar 12-16-15 10:16 AM

Actually some people dont know enough about solar panels and cant properly express their fears.

BUT! The real problem it would seem stems from more than just uneducated bumpkins from North Carolina thinking solar panels will soak up all of the sun's rays. It would appear to me the towns people are seeing the results from three other solar farms already in place around their town and said enough is enough.

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"Jean Barnes said she represented many citizens who rejected any more solar farms coming to the Woodland area and presented a petition to the council.

Barnes asked that any future solar farm requests be placed on a referendum so the citizens can make the decision.

Mary Hobbs has been living in Woodland for 50 years and said she has watched it slowly becoming a ghost town with no job opportunities for young people.

She said her home is surrounded by solar farms and is no longer worth its value because of those facilities.

She added that the only people profiting are the landowners who sell their land, the solar companies, and the electric companies.
We had a similar fight against wind farms. Told the companies to pack sand they went bust and never came back.

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2366640)
Actually some people dont know enough about solar panels and cant properly express their fears.

BUT! The real problem it would seem stems from more than just uneducated bumpkins from North Carolina thinking solar panels will soak up all of the sun's rays. It would appear to me the towns people are seeing the results from three other solar farms already in place around their town and said enough is enough.



We had a similar fight against wind farms. Told the companies to pack sand they went bust and never came back.


I don't think, legally, the town can say no. My neighborhood is overseen by a HOA(Home Owners Association). The new must have thing is solar panels on your roof. Ugly as hell but the HOA can not say no to solar panels per government regulations/laws on sustainable energy. The sad part of these panels is the company that installs them has a 20 year contract with the homeowner. If the homeowner needs to sell they are still stuck with the 20 year contract or need to sell it as a package to the next owner. Plus, the company installing is getting the tax credits from the government(millions) and not the home owner.

Aktungbby 12-16-15 11:19 AM

The battle over solar power never goes outta style
 
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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2366634)
Suck up all the sun ? Some people have way too much time on their hands. :roll:

Could u enlighten us on that statement? :D https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-Aten_disk.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...KV55_scull.jpggood ol' Akhenaton: 3350 years later(Tut's daddy) Sun power was a big deal back then too!:O:

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2366659)
Could u enlighten us on that statement? :D https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-Aten_disk.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...KV55_scull.jpggood ol' Akhenaton: 3350 years later(Tut's daddy) Sun power was a big deal back then too!:O:


Ra was considered the god of sun. Not much as a power source to operate things. :hmmm:

August 12-16-15 11:27 AM

I'd have been happy to claim that windmills cause gall stones or anything else if it would have worked to defeat their placement on Mt. Passadumkeag up near my place in Maine.

Hey they lied about it not marring the view and they lied about it not killing birds and they lied about utility rates not skyrocketing like they have so why can't I lie about why I oppose them?

Of course the media (read Bangor Daily News) would have happily ignored 99 reasoned arguments and concentrated on that objection as representative because that is what they do.

It's gone from this
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1255/1...bfb1d4db_b.jpg

to this

http://api.ning.com/files/DrCKhHEam1...Ik/Soponac.bmp

:nope:

STEED 12-16-15 11:56 AM

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Another local woman named Jane Mann who was identified as a retired school teacher expressed genuine fears plants in the area would not get enough sunlight to perform photosynthesis if the solar project was approved.
I wonder what the Green Party would say. :hmmm:

Rockstar 12-16-15 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2366649)
I don't think, legally, the town can say no. My neighborhood is overseen by a HOA(Home Owners Association). The new must have thing is solar panels on your roof. Ugly as hell but the HOA can not say no to solar panels per government regulations/laws on sustainable energy. The sad part of these panels is the company that installs them has a 20 year contract with the homeowner. If the homeowner needs to sell they are still stuck with the 20 year contract or need to sell it as a package to the next owner. Plus, the company installing is getting the tax credits from the government(millions) and not the home owner.


Before the company could build the town had to approve rezoning the future construction site from agriculture to industrial. They did 't and I believe that sent the Solar company packing.

Betonov 12-16-15 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2366640)
Actually some people dont know enough about solar panels and cant properly express their fears.

BUT! The real problem it would seem stems from more than just uneducated bumpkins from North Carolina thinking solar panels will soak up all of the sun's rays. It would appear to me the towns people are seeing the results from three other solar farms already in place around their town and said enough is enough.

Media.
Focus on the crackpots.

I've read somewhere, can't remember exactly where, that the real reason the town is resisting it because the area for the solar farm is so far away from existing infrastructure that to hook up the town to the grid would cost more than the budget allows.

Solar farms are a waste of space. Literally.
You have a technology where you can put a small powerplant on every house in the area, sell the owner power at a reduced cost and send the surplus into the grid.
But no, lets destroy entire acres of nature or arable land for an overlay of an existing urban area.

Mike Abberton 12-16-15 12:33 PM

The engineering company I work for has done some support work for solar projects, but these projects are generally completed at sites which are already of limited use/undesirable, predominantly closed landfills.

I agree that turning woodlands, pastures, or farmland into solar farms is not the best way to go.

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2366676)
Before the company could build the town had to approve rezoning the future construction site from agriculture to industrial. They did 't and I believe that sent the Solar company packing.


Darn zoning can be great to have or an issue down the road.

Elkins WV. Skyline destroyed. But hey, the lights are on!

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/w...46-428x374.jpg

STEED 12-16-15 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2366690)
Darn zoning can be great to have or an issue down the road.

Elkins WV. Skyline destroyed. But hey, the lights are on!

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/w...46-428x374.jpg

Pig ugly wind farms.

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2366693)
Pig ugly wind farms.

I have seen these in person. I agree. Pig ugly. Not to mention each has a strobe light for alerting aircraft. It looks like Close Encounters of the Third Kind at night.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...1t33qebjpg.jpg

Aktungbby 12-16-15 01:18 PM

3200+ units!
 
On the way to mom-in-laws' house near palm springshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...m_IMG_0504.JPG & worse nearby at san Gorgonio Pass https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ornia_pano.jpg

AVGWarhawk 12-16-15 02:44 PM

Sheesh...waiting on scientific reports on what these wind farms do to the environment. I'm sure there is something. Bird kills, disrupted breeding of the Blue Booby or sonar disruption of the bottle nosed dolphin.

Betonov 12-16-15 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2366725)
Sheesh...waiting on scientific reports on what these wind farms do to the environment. I'm sure there is something. Bird kills, disrupted breeding of the Blue Booby or sonar disruption of the bottle nosed dolphin.

Forget that. The amount of chemicals needed to produce one windmill blade is abhoring.
We made master models and ended up with tons of waste, non-reacted resin, used paint thiner, bad batches etc. and then someone has to make the mould and then someone has to make the blade. Not to mention our CNC milling machine used more power than a windmill will generate in 5 years.

Rockstar 12-16-15 04:42 PM

http://www.safeforsomerset.org

We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County some very knowledgable people banded together and threw the money grubbing bums out.

If you hear about wind farms coming to a town near you. I recommend you read some at the link above.

STEED 12-16-15 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2366761)
We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County people banded together and threw the green energy bums out.

Well Done. :yeah:


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